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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

The H440 is already an air starved case, and you have absolutely no cool air going to the rad, this is not going to work well. Run the H320 fans as intakes. And leave those Riing fans in the closet, the Swiftech Helix fans are better performers on this radiator. Also, if you are going to leave the res on top, see if you can put a fill/drain line on that you can keep higher than the res allowing for a higher fill. This way any evaporation will give you a great margin of error before the pump starts sucking in air.
I'm afraid you are getting it correct.....doh.gif
Wouldn't that bring HOT air into the case? i mean a single 120 just from the GPU pushes steaming hot now and now i'm adding a CPU to the mix.
I'm not dismissing suggestions , just trying to understand thumb.gif Also in this position changing fan directions shouldn't be a problem, so i can try both ways.
Edited by KillerBee33 - 9/5/16 at 5:26am
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post #20002 of 20809
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Wouldn't that bring HOT air into the case? i mean a single 120 just from the GPU pushes steaming hot now and now i'm adding a CPU to the mix.
I'm not dismissing suggestions , just trying to understand thumb.gif Also in this position changing fan directions shouldn't be a problem, so i can try both ways.

Actually, yes it would. Personally, I am almost never for using a rad as intake, but this is an exception. With your setup, you are definitely forced to choose the lesser of two evils. The correct thing to do is put the rad on top as has been suggested, but since you do not want to do that.....

The setup you are showing has no intake. Literally no intake. The only way for cool are to get to the rad will by having it suck in through leaks in the case. You are also creating a vacuum, so your are actually greatly increasing resistance to your fans, so your fans will actually flow less air while moving at the same speed. Air will also choose the path of least resistance, and that path will not be through your radiator, it will be out the top and back. You need airflow. Air needs to move as effortlessly as possible, and your setup is doing exactly the opposite.
post #20003 of 20809
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Actually, yes it would. Personally, I am almost never for using a rad as intake, but this is an exception. With your setup, you are definitely forced to choose the lesser of two evils. The correct thing to do is put the rad on top as has been suggested, but since you do not want to do that.....

The setup you are showing has no intake. Literally no intake. The only way for cool are to get to the rad will by having it suck in through leaks in the case. You are also creating a vacuum, so your are actually greatly increasing resistance to your fans, so your fans will actually flow less air while moving at the same speed. Air will also choose the path of least resistance, and that path will not be through your radiator, it will be out the top and back. You need airflow. Air needs to move as effortlessly as possible, and your setup is doing exactly the opposite.
I see what you sayin' , what if i have top fans as intake or 140mm Side fan as intake? Mounting H320 on top will give me a headache when fillin it i' assume in this small h440.Also if i mount the 320 on top , shhould i use it as pull/exhaust ?
Edited by KillerBee33 - 9/5/16 at 6:11am
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Wouldn't that bring HOT air into the case? i mean a single 120 just from the GPU pushes steaming hot now and now i'm adding a CPU to the mix.
I'm not dismissing suggestions , just trying to understand thumb.gif Also in this position changing fan directions shouldn't be a problem, so i can try both ways.

Circulating hot air inside a case means nothing. What's important is to have a steady airflow and positive pressure to prevent major dust intake (does require your intake fans to be filtered). So flip around both your front and back fans to intake air, and make sure they're filtered. The way you have it setup right now is negative air pressure, and that will not serve you well, trust me.

Edit:

Here's a good video with a bit of demonstation:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Edited by d0mmie - 9/5/16 at 6:45am
post #20005 of 20809
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Circulating hot air inside a case means nothing. What's important is to have a steady airflow and positive pressure to prevent major dust intake (does require your intake fans to be filtered). So flip around both your front and back fans to intake air, and make sure they're filtered. The way you have it setup right now is negative air pressure, and that will not serve you well, trust me.
You mean this?
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post #20006 of 20809
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You mean this?

If your top intake is filtered, then yes that could work, but still it's more effective the way I described by intaking air from front, back, sides, and exhausting in the top

Edit: Didn't notice first that you're doing intake from the top, hence why my first comment on it might not make too much sense to you smile.gif
post #20007 of 20809
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If your top intake is filtered, then yes that could work, but still it's more effective the way I described by intaking air from front, back, sides, and exhausting in the top

Edit: Didn't notice first that you're doing intake from the top, hence why my first comment on it might not make too much sense to you smile.gif
Heh i just flipped the top wink.gif originally it was this

Feels like having 320 as intake only works for the Radiator to get fresh air but what comes out (HOT)of it will work against everything else.
You think this will work better?

I can get this filter on top if the H320 set as pull/exhaust and top fans as intake

Edited by KillerBee33 - 9/5/16 at 7:17am
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Looked around on the H440 Owners Page , most have same setup Air or Water loop wink.gif
Thank you guys for the info , seems this is what i'm gonna do for now
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post #20009 of 20809
Dude... Hot air inside your case means nothing as long you have a good airflow. You worry way too much about this wink.gif

Edit: To prove a point:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
post #20010 of 20809
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Dude... Hot air inside your case means nothing as long you have a good airflow. You worry way too much about this wink.gif

Edit: To prove a point:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Tnx. If it doesn't work ill get a second 240 rad for the top and call it a day rolleyes.gif
Adding another rad. should be quick and easy with everything positioned as is got enough Mayhems Ultra Clear Tubing w, will only need 2 extra compression fittings and one elbow thumb.gif
What sux is bcz of the holidays i might not get everything by the end of this week.
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