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It is possible as it can be mounted vertically. There's this way or this but I don't know which is the more preferred one assuming I'll be adding a res. I miss Brian from Swiftech frown.gif

http://www.swiftech.com/H220-X.aspx#tab4 If you look at that the only orientation you can't mount it in is upside down.
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post #20542 of 20643
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Yeah he has been offline for awhile now. At least with him here we could get answers.

 

Yeah, he abandoned the thread as soon as he resigned from Swiftech.

 

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http://www.swiftech.com/H220-X.aspx#tab4 If you look at that the only orientation you can't mount it in is upside down.

 

Right, I know that pic. But I'm sure there would be a preferred way (between the two pics I've linked) to go about when considering tube routing with an additional res, no?

 

For radiators mounted vertically, does it matter if the tubing is up top or in the bottom? I remember reading something about keeping air bubbles trapped in the rad or something.

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How do you guys (what orientation) mount your H220X in front of a case assuming I'll be adding a reservoir?

Depends on where you want the air bubble to form and how you plan to burp it out.
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Yeah, he abandoned the thread as soon as he resigned from Swiftech.


Right, I know that pic. But I'm sure there would be a preferred way (between the two pics I've linked) to go about when considering tube routing with an additional res, no?

For radiators mounted vertically, does it matter if the tubing is up top or in the bottom? I remember reading something about keeping air bubbles trapped in the rad or something.

I don't know for sure but my guess is mount it the way in the second pic and have the res above it, that way gravity will feed the water to the pump.
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Depends on where you want the air bubble to form and how you plan to burp it out.

 

I'm a noob in watercooling so I apologize. I may need a guiding hand here. My setup will contain ultimately these components:

 

H220X (pump+res combo, rad, CPU waterblock)

GPU waterblock

Additional Black Ice 280 GTS radiator

Reservoir (not sure which one to use, yet)

Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX case

 

So with those in mind, @ciarlatano suggested mount the H220X rad in front, the 280mm in at the top, and add an additional reservoir to make filling and bleeding easier. But then comes my initial question of what orientation is best if I mount the H220X in the front?

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I'm a noob in watercooling so I apologize. I may need a guiding hand here. My setup will contain ultimately these components:

H220X (pump+res combo, rad, CPU waterblock)
GPU waterblock
Additional Black Ice 280 GTS radiator
Reservoir (not sure which one to use, yet)
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX case

So with those in mind, @ciarlatano suggested mount the H220X rad in front, the 280mm in at the top, and add an additional reservoir to make filling and bleeding easier. But then comes my initial question of what orientation is best if I mount the H220X in the front?

No apology needed, but you need to get used to doing some of the thinking on your project.

Consider that if you flip the Swiftech so that the hose connections are nearer the bottom of your case, a bubble will form in the Swiftech rad farthest away from the hose ports. You'll have to flip the case to remove that bubble. You have to ask yourself if you can find a way to flip it without creating another, perhaps larger bubble somewhere else in your system depending on which additional res you acquire and where you install it. You need to think it out. Maybe draw a diagram or find a similar build and consider how you'll go about filling, emptying, cleaning and burping. You're not going to know exactly how it's going to go together until you have your parts sitting on the table in front of you.

I have a Swiftech H220x2 and an additional Nemesis 240 GTX rad. My current setup is simple and requires me to pull my sd card reader from my front panel to access my res. I'm cool with that. There are many right ways to do this. Every setup has its positives and negatives and it's really up to you to decide which is best for you.
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No apology needed, but you need to get used to doing some of the thinking on your project.

Consider that if you flip the Swiftech so that the hose connections are nearer the bottom of your case, a bubble will form in the Swiftech rad farthest away from the hose ports. You'll have to flip the case to remove that bubble. You have to ask yourself if you can find a way to flip it without creating another, perhaps larger bubble somewhere else in your system depending on which additional res you acquire and where you install it. You need to think it out. Maybe draw a diagram or find a similar build and consider how you'll go about filling, emptying, cleaning and burping. You're not going to know exactly how it's going to go together until you have your parts sitting on the table in front of you.

I have a Swiftech H220x2 and an additional Nemesis 240 GTX rad. My current setup is simple and requires me to pull my sd card reader from my front panel to access my res. I'm cool with that. There are many right ways to do this. Every setup has its positives and negatives and it's really up to you to decide which is best for you.

I will as long as I know the basics already. For now, I'm still learning which is why I ask many questions on top of my own research of course.

From what you said about air bubbles forming in the Swiftech rad farthest away from the hose ports, is this why generally rads are vertically oriented in such a way that the hoses are in the top because air bubbles naturally go up?
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Great! Thanks.

Yeah, I'm actually open to suggestions. It's just that I love the looks of the Evolv. I also like the InWin 303 but I don't like the fact that the rad on top is mounted sideways blowing into the other side. Where does the hot air escape from there? I also don't know if I like the PSU being on top of the case. It just feels weird to me given that most cases now have it at the bottom.

EDIT:

When do I use QDC's in a loop? Are they recommended? I heard they are very restrictive.

And how do you mount the H220X in front?

i usually prefer to setup my cases with positive pressure in mind, that has given me the best experience accross the computer i have built and have built for others. so in that orientation.

top fans from left to right.
exhaust (gpu exhaust), intake, intake
bottom
intake, intake, intake
back
exhaust

this way the exhaust can escape from both the psu and the back fan.
as for having the psu up higher it feels weird but the layout of the case makes it really easy to hide cables and mess. the area at the top is just for intake or exhaust so you can always mount a couple drives up there cleaning up any possible mess. initially i did agree with the thought that having a psu at the top was not normal (by todays standards) but after building my server and other computers that generally just sit and look pretty the idea grew on me. my current desk setup has the power cord sticking out over the monitor due to limited space, so i stare at the cable when i am looking at it. having the power cable at the bottom makes sense if it is living on a desk, but if you are placing the computer on the ground you will likely appreciate having the capability to plug it in higher.


let me apologize for having broken thoughts in this post i am a little distracted by studying at the moment.


as for the last question.... it depends on orientation. for my case i had to mount the reservoir facing the side panel of the case, at first i didn't like it but over time i actually prefer not having the leds on the front lighting up the room. looks way better lighting up the wall. smile.gif in the end the light leak from the leds into the reservoir was more than enough to give me all the colour i really needed or even wanted.
Edited by shamus20 - 4/8/17 at 10:30pm
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From what you said about air bubbles forming in the Swiftech rad farthest away from the hose ports, is this why generally rads are vertically oriented in such a way that the hoses are in the top because air bubbles naturally go up?

Yes. Air will collect in any high pocket and you'll need to work it out of the system. If your hose connections are on the bottom of your rad, you'll need to invert your case to move that air. It usually means tipping your box around at different angles until the bubbles move out and collect into one big bubble at a drain port or in the res.
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