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Temps are lower so I guess this chip is not as good as the x8xx series...

EDIT: Ambients vary quite a bit, but maybe 24 C at max. Now it is colder tho, because I have my window open biggrin.gif
Also I am in no way dissappointed, I was just checking. Now I need to start overclocking some more 4.7 GHz atm thumb.gif
Edited by AlDyer - 4/30/13 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by paleh0rse14 View Post

Fair enough! I'm seeing some poor core temps on my 3570k @ 4.3 GHz -- as high as 78C at load -- so I'm going to try to reapply the paste tonight. Since my temps were essentially the exact same with just my CM212 EVO HSF, I really need to figure out how to get these lower.

Do you happen to have any temperature stats for this CPU using only your stock H220 kit (2 Helix fans)?

What's your Vcore at? I just happen to be running a 3570k @ 4.3 Ghz as well. I'm using a 1.188 Vcore droop can go as low as 1.176, and after 5 hours of P95 blend my hottest core hit 73c with a 20c-23c ambient.

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Originally Posted by BramSLI1 View Post

No, I don't have any data on that processor being used with our stock kit. From my understanding though that particular chip is notoriously difficult to cool. I think it has something to do with the thermal paste between the IHS and chip itself. I'm running an AMD processor in my home rig so I really don't know that much about Intel's chips. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Intel used a traditional TIM to interface the IHS and the Die in the 3570k. Many people report up to a 10c all the way up to a 20c drop in temps after delidding and applying Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra.
Edited by Skullwipe - 4/30/13 at 11:12am
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There is a pic of my rig. I know I don't have any fancy sleevings, (yet) but not too bad

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What's your Vcore at? I just happen to be running a 3570k @ 4.3 Ghz as well. I'm using a 1.188 Vcore droop can go as low as 1.176, and after 5 hours of P95 blend my hottest core hit 73c with a 20c-23c ambient.
My ambient temps are about the same, with 1.29V at load. My hottest core hit 79C overnight. Again, this is identical to my highest core temps using the CM212 EVO, which is why I'm concerned. It's tough to justify the additional $110 if I end up with the same results and no additional headroom for OC'ing to 4.4 and beyond.
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Intel used a traditional TIM to interface the IHS and the Die in the 3570k. Many people report up to a 10c all the way up to a 20c drop in temps after delidding and applying Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra.
That entire de-lidding process freaks me out in a similar way that removing the AG coating on a monitor freaks me out. LOLI

That said, I may still do it someday, but only as a last resort if/when I can't get acceptable temps with just water...
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Originally Posted by paleh0rse14 View Post

My ambient temps are about the same, with 1.29V at load. My hottest core hit 79C overnight. Again, this is identical to my highest core temps using the CM212 EVO, which is why I'm concerned. It's tough to justify the additional $110 if I end up with the same results and no additional headroom for OC'ing to 4.4 and beyond.
That entire de-lidding process freaks me out in a similar way that removing the AG coating on a monitor freaks me out. LOLI

That said, I may still do it someday, but only as a last resort if/when I can't get acceptable temps with just water...

I de-lidded (hammer and vice method) my 3570k about two weeks ago with CL Ultra and saw around 15-23c improvement. Pretty simple process and I was very nervous when I started.
post #2266 of 20686
There is only one way to get really good temps with a 3570k or 3770k. You need to delid to reduce the space between the IHS and die which Intel messed up with excessive use of glue. It is not about replacing the TIM, but more about getting the IHS to make good contact with the die.

Once you delid and use a liquid metal TIM on the die you should get a 15 to 25c temp drop.

If you guys are wondering about your temps then you if you look at a lot of reviews you should get a better idea. The H100i has been around long enough to be included in the graphs of most reviews, and the H220 will cool your cpu within a few c of an H100i.
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My ambient temps are about the same, with 1.29V at load. My hottest core hit 79C overnight. Again, this is identical to my highest core temps using the CM212 EVO, which is why I'm concerned. It's tough to justify the additional $110 if I end up with the same results and no additional headroom for OC'ing to 4.4 and beyond.

My Vcore at 1.188 is already higher than most need to hit 4.3 Ghz, lower your Vcore by 0.05v and run P95 or IBT for 15 minutes to check short term stability. Continue until it fails, then raise your Vcore by 0.01v until you're stable for 15 minutes, from there shoot for 1 hour stability, still increasing by 0.01v if it fails. After that it's time to stability test it over night.

Ninja Edit: My CPU has a messed up memory controller, so even at stock speeds I have to run at 1.160v core just to be stable. Just can't afford to RMA atm.
Edited by Skullwipe - 4/30/13 at 11:39am
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My H220 temp data listed below:
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Delidded 3770k, 5.0 @ 1.41v, MVF, 16 gb TridentX 2400, Switch 810
Swiftech: H220, 220 rad bottom, 320 rad top, 140 rad back

5 NF-F12 fans on top/bottom rads, one NF-A14 on 140 rad, two more NF-A14 case fans

Heatkiller hole edition full cover copper block with backplate for the GTX 690

2 Bitspower 45 degree compression fittings, the rest are Swiftech Lok-seal compression, using Swiftech black Truflex 3/8-5/8 tubing

With the rad fans at 60% (the lowest bios settings I have), case fans on the low noise adapter, and the H220 pump at 30% this setup is very quiet. With those quiet settings my Prime95 max core temps with an 8k-8k torture test with 90% ram usage for 15 minutes with the chip at 5.0, 1.41v are:
68, 71, 70, 66 in a 22.7c room

Running a benchmark Valley 1.0 run with a max gpu overclock +155, +740 my two cores are about 40c max.
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post #2269 of 20686
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Redesigning the back plate will be up to Gabe and Stephen. They're the engineers. I'm just a Customer Support Rep. I'll let you know if this is something that they'll consider.

Be sure and share with them you have to use painters tape! I'll second the recommendation on the CM 212 backplate design - they should take a look at it. It went together trivially.
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My H220 temp data listed below:
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Delidded 3770k, 5.0 @ 1.41v, MVF, 16 gb TridentX 2400, Switch 810
Swiftech: H220, 220 rad bottom, 320 rad top, 140 rad back

5 NF-F12 fans on top/bottom rads, one NF-A14 on 140 rad, two more NF-A14 case fans

Heatkiller hole edition full cover copper block with backplate for the GTX 690

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68, 71, 70, 66 in a 22.7c room

Running a benchmark Valley 1.0 run with a max gpu overclock +155, +740 my two cores are about 40c max.

And this is why I'm so tempted to Delid.
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