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Going to be RMAing my 3570k, if the new one has better contact I may not delid, if it doesn't I'm about 75% certain I'll go for it.

Does it do 3.8 with turbo? If yes you won't be able to RMA it. You also don't want to get rid of good silicon if the only issue you have is a bad IHS application. Before you try to sell / RMA I would suggest doing suicide runs to see where you can get your chip to post at relatively low volts (1.45ish or less). This can let you know if your chip has potential to make delidding worth it, or if you should settle for ~4.5ghz.
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No one is saying that! If your not seeing an improvement, there is something wrong. It's as simple as that. What the problem is, I'm not sure. A bad mount, air in the system, not enough coolant in the system, fans not spinning at right speed. I don't know, but the H220 definitely outperforms the CM212!

Actually that is exactly what I am saying. I had a bad 3570k as far as temperature went when overclocked, I could get 4.5ghz easy with low volts but the temps were way to high (98C in Prime95). H220 and 212+ were virtually identical when I p/p'd 2 fans. It isn't an issue of getting heat away from the IHS at that point, it is a complete issue with getting heat off of the die onto the IHS.
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Does it do 3.8 with turbo? If yes you won't be able to RMA it. You also don't want to get rid of good silicon if the only issue you have is a bad IHS application. Before you try to sell / RMA I would suggest doing suicide runs to see where you can get your chip to post at relatively low volts (1.45ish or less). This can let you know if your chip has potential to make delidding worth it, or if you should settle for ~4.5ghz..

The RMA is already approved, the reason is because of a suspected faulty memory controller. At stock speeds and voltage I average 2 blue screens a day, tried 4 different sticks of ram in each slot and the BSOD's continue to happen. As soon as I over volt the chip, 1.170v or higher at stock speeds, it stops happening...of course I didn't tell them that.
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The RMA is already approved, the reason is because of a suspected faulty memory controller. At stock speeds and voltage I average 2 blue screens a day, tried 4 different sticks of ram in each slot and the BSOD's continue to happen. As soon as I over volt the chip, 1.170v or higher at stock speeds, it stops happening...of course I didn't tell them that.

Oh, if there are other issues then good luck with your second roll on the lottery.
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Any tips on configuring the curve?

Trial and error? tongue.gif

Speedfan isn't known for its friendly interface, and trying to move the curves up/down is a point by point deal. So ultimately I ended up setting minimum speed settings for the fans (if the curve says go lower, it will stick with the minimum), and then stretching/compressing the ends of the curves so that the fans would start speeding up about the temperature I thought they should, reaching 100% when I thought they should.

For the H220, I just used the 4 cores. But for the case fans, started with just system, but then ended up adding in the cores and GPU as well, to keep heat from building up in the case.
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Trial and error? tongue.gif

Speedfan isn't known for its friendly interface, and trying to move the curves up/down is a point by point deal. So ultimately I ended up setting minimum speed settings for the fans (if the curve says go lower, it will stick with the minimum), and then stretching/compressing the ends of the curves so that the fans would start speeding up about the temperature I thought they should, reaching 100% when I thought they should.

For the H220, I just used the 4 cores. But for the case fans, started with just system, but then ended up adding in the cores and GPU as well, to keep heat from building up in the case.

I just did some reading and learned that Gigabyte is a little weird about fan control. I'd like to run the pump at a set speed while allowing the fan speed to be curve controlled. From what I've read it seems there's no benefit to running the pump over 50%.
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I just did some reading and learned that Gigabyte is a little weird about fan control. I'd like to run the pump at a set speed while allowing the fan speed to be curve controlled. From what I've read it seems there's no benefit to running the pump over 50%.
Easy solution: Connect the pump directly to a 3-pin header that allows manual control in bios for a fixed speed, and then attach the 4-pin PWN fans to a header (such as CPUFAN) that allows Speedfan to vary the speed based on temps.
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Does it do 3.8 with turbo? If yes you won't be able to RMA it. You also don't want to get rid of good silicon if the only issue you have is a bad IHS application. Before you try to sell / RMA I would suggest doing suicide runs to see where you can get your chip to post at relatively low volts (1.45ish or less). This can let you know if your chip has potential to make delidding worth it, or if you should settle for ~4.5ghz.
Actually that is exactly what I am saying. I had a bad 3570k as far as temperature went when overclocked, I could get 4.5ghz easy with low volts but the temps were way to high (98C in Prime95). H220 and 212+ were virtually identical when I p/p'd 2 fans. It isn't an issue of getting heat away from the IHS at that point, it is a complete issue with getting heat off of the die onto the IHS.

OK. Makes sense. thumb.gif I've seen my 3610QM in my laptop hit 100C during encoding according to CoreTemp. That's just crazy!!!doh.gif
 
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Easy solution: Connect the pump directly to a 3-pin header that allows manual control in bios for a fixed speed, and then attach the 4-pin PWN fans to a header (such as CPUFAN) that allows Speedfan to vary the speed based on temps.

Pump is designed for 12v, not voltage control...last thing i want to do it reduce the MTBF of the pump. I just need to figure out which headers have PWM control, set one with a flat curve, and the other to ramp up with the CPU temps.

Edit:



So it looks like only the CPU and Sys Fan 1 support PWM control, just trying to determine what the difference is between VCC and Speed Control on pin 4.
Edited by Skullwipe - 4/30/13 at 6:16pm
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Got it today and installed. Bit of a hassle installing the pump, but I'm sure I could do it better if I need to next time. Corsair's were definitely a lot easier to install IMO.

Anyways, not a big deal. I'm going to have to control the fan speeds but for now I just wanted it running and it seems to be working well so far. I do hear the trickling (water) type sound, but it doesn't bother me. I had to also mount it with the fill port facing down, unless I mod my case on top, it will do for now. I will say the NZXT 210 Elite isn't really compatible without modding/drilling holes to align it right (Which I did expect since I did it for the H100i). Other than that, it seems to fit, just barely. wink.gif







I will show my results in temps when it's been running for a couple days first. So far, not bad. And yes I'm using Corsair H100i stock fans, it's for my own personal comparison. Most likely putting the Swiftech fans back on soon.
Edited by Nightz2k - 4/30/13 at 6:55pm
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One big advantage of the fan control tab, is that those curves have a hysteresis setting. On the default, non-curve, settings, speedfan has an annoying habit of cycling back and forth as the measured temperature goes back and forth a degree.

Interesting, good to know. my speeds increment by 5% rather than 10% (which slows the responsiveness) and overall nothing is fluctuating like crazy enough to make noticeable noise. I would imagine if you had fans that had a higher RPM and had a higher change in RPM per % it may be useful, like for the 2700 rpm SP120Ls.
 
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