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Went through I do not hear the pump at all. What I hear is the 2x pwm Helix grinding.
    
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Is there an easier way to view that sheet in the OP? The ads cut off part of it

Right-click in the listings (Frame) and look for - This Frame > Open Frame in New Tab. You'll see everything in full, if that's what you were referring to.

BTW, that's what I do in Firefox, not sure on other browsers, but you get the idea.
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Is there an easier way to view that sheet in the OP? The ads cut off part of it

The site has a hard frame width that I can't force the sheet to view past.

However, I added a direct link to the datasheet on it's own for easier viewing, right underneath the chart thumb.gif.
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The site has a hard frame width that I can't force the sheet to view past.

However, I added a direct link to the datasheet on it's own for easier viewing, right underneath the chart thumb.gif.

Much easier for everyone, thanks! thumb.gif
post #2715 of 20731
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Originally Posted by Sp33d Junki3 View Post

H220 is here. I know I will have to reset it and adjust position, as its too close to my ram.
For now it all works and temps is normal.

I'm going to try a front mount too see how it fits in the Midi R2.

I thought about doing front mount in my Arc Midi R2, but it is probably the worst possible way you could mount it. Not only would the pump be the highest point in the loop which is already dangerous, but the tubes aren't long enough to reach the CPU if you mount the radiator with the reservoir at the top. So you would have to mount it with the res at the bottom and the pump as the highest point... basically you're feeding all the air in the loop directly into the pump. Unless you want to be checking fluid levels very often and topping it off to 100% when it gets a tiny bit low it will really be a hassle doing it that way.
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Thank you very much for your suggestion Martin, and I'll take this up with Stephen to see about putting something like that together. I'm sure Phelan would be able to post it on the first page of this forum too, once it's finished.

Thanks for looking into it. Right now eveyone has to guess, it would be nice to have some guidance. There is really nothing to help design radiator capacity nor pumping power. I have some PQ data on the pump and restriction on the rad, but I don't have the VGA hardware to go further. My old 570gtx is still on air and I couldn't justify buying a waterblock for it so CPU heat was all I could do.

It seems like 100w per 120mm rad section yields decent results at Prime95 levels but very little is out there to help folks understand actual usage heat loads and how actual heat varies with different CPUs GPUs and overclocks. The H220 is very popular largely due to the Expansion feature so it only makes sense to me that there would be "expansion guidance". Your filling and priming video is a great start, but we don't have anything to help provide heat load or restriction guidance. A simple table showing kit vs a range of expanded parts and their respective CPU and GPU temps would convey the message very clearly and be a great help.

Result could even be calculated if c/w vs flow and PQ and pressure drop data bits were developed for each item.

Anyhow, just a suggestion. Seems like a data hole that would be greatly appreciated by the users.thumb.gif
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post #2717 of 20731
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I thought about doing front mount in my Arc Midi R2, but it is probably the worst possible way you could mount it. Not only would the pump be the highest point in the loop which is already dangerous, but the tubes aren't long enough to reach the CPU if you mount the radiator with the reservoir at the top. So you would have to mount it with the res at the bottom and the pump as the highest point... basically you're feeding all the air in the loop directly into the pump. Unless you want to be checking fluid levels very often and topping it off to 100% when it gets a tiny bit low it will really be a hassle doing it that way.
If you want it in front you could simply put in a micro res. up top or a simple T somewhere as an air trap. Cheap and easy. If the res is the highest point it shouldnt matter if the rad is pointed up, down or whatever. Easy to see if you need a top off as well.
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This has probably been discussed already. Since the fans are PWM fans. Is it ok to plug them into a fan controller.
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You can but if you control pwm fans by voltage and not a pwm signal then you are going to shorten the life of said fan. Best to use the pwm splitter that came with the h220 if you dont have enough pwm headers on your mb (at least for the cpu cooling fans). Of course if your controller uses pwm then no harm done.
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This has probably been discussed already. Since the fans are PWM fans. Is it ok to plug them into a fan controller.

Short answer is no, because 95% of fan controllers modulate voltage, and the PWM Helix fans do not respond well to voltage control.
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