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post #2901 of 20767
Yeah, see if that will allow you to adjust the speed. On my board Sysfan_1 and the CPU fan are PWM controlled, can you tell me what control chip Speedfan is seeing? On mine it's the IT8728F.
post #2902 of 20767
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Originally Posted by GioV View Post

Maybe you guys can diagnose a problem for me, I just finish installing extra radiators on my H220, it looks great but my temps leave much to be desired. Max temps are around 60C and idle temps hover between 35-40C, maybe 1-2C difference with fans and pump at full speed.

I have bled the system as much as I can, fluid is always topped off every time I open the rad. For reference, I am using a mix of Swiftech HydrX PM Coolant and some distilled water.

All my hardware is at stock, nothing is overclocked. I am using a Swiftech Komodo 7900 water block, a Koolance 120mm rad and a Alphacool 280mm rad. Currently the 280mm rad is set to push air inside the case and the other 2 rads and the back fan are pushing air out. Any tips on how I can improve my system would be greatly appreciated, this is my first time making a custom loop




*edit* Prior to expanding my H220 I would get CPU idle temps from 24-30C
First, setup ALL of the rad fans as intakes, and use the case fan in the rear of the case as the only exhaust.

Also, what is the ambient air temperature of the air around the case? (Get yourself a thermometer)
post #2903 of 20767
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- Bottom rad- using a Silenix Effizio fan. Not the best for a rad but its more for the look.

http://koolance.com/radiator-1-fan-120mm-30-fpi-copper

-Side rad- Using 2 140mm fans that came with the Arc Midi R2.

http://www.amazon.com/Alphacool-NexXxoS-Copper-240mm-Radiator/dp/B007P05XUU

-Top rad - Just the Swiftech rad with the stock fans pulling air out.

Tubing is H220 standard tubing 3/8 by 5/8.

Ambient is 23C.

30fpi you need a good high speed fan for the Koolance rad. the ut60 dont really need high speed fans and it scales well at all speeds. so i say i think you just need better fans with good static pressure. the fans you are using are case fans not good for rads.
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post #2904 of 20767
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Yeah, see if that will allow you to adjust the speed. On my board Sysfan_1 and the CPU fan are PWM controlled, can you tell me what control chip Speedfan is seeing? On mine it's the IT8728F.
same chip, tried a different header and no change.
going from 100% to 0% only drops it 25 rpm

I bet it'd work without the hub, but I'm not sure if it'll actually use PWM to control it
post #2905 of 20767
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same chip, tried a different header and no change.
going from 100% to 0% only drops it 25 rpm

I bet it'd work without the hub, but I'm not sure if it'll actually use PWM to control it

The hub isn't going to force it to use PWM. I have my pump plugged directly into Sysfan_2 and the Hub and fans plugged into the CPU fan header.

Here's the fan header page of my manual. the ones that have pin 4 labeled speed control support PWM. Looked at the UD3H manual and it has the exact same configuration, the header near the RAM slots and the CPU header are the ones I can verify work for me. I know if you followed the guide you've already done it, but in the Advanced tab of Speedfan, make sure you set the PWM modes on the IT8728F to Software Controlled.


Edited by Skullwipe - 5/17/13 at 11:42pm
post #2906 of 20767
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Originally Posted by Sp33d Junki3 View Post

Need more info on which rads are used and what fans?
Ambient temps?
Bottom I would go intake. Also adding more rads do not always mean lower temps.

- Bottom rad- using a Silenix Effizio fan. Not the best for a rad but its more for the look.

http://koolance.com/radiator-1-fan-120mm-30-fpi-copper

-Side rad- Using 2 140mm fans that came with the Arc Midi R2.

http://www.amazon.com/Alphacool-NexXxoS-Copper-240mm-Radiator/dp/B007P05XUU

-Top rad - Just the Swiftech rad with the stock fans pulling air out.

Tubing is H220 standard tubing 3/8 by 5/8.

Ambient is 23C.
You need for the koolance is push/pull with high static pressure. Single fan lacks the ability to properly cool. Suggest to remove it from the loop. The fan you have wont do nothing to cool the rad.
The stock fans from Arc R2, is not good for cooling rads. Lacks any airflow to flow through. To use low speeds fans, P/P is better and you have room to do that.
    
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post #2907 of 20767
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You need for the koolance is push/pull with high static pressure. Single fan lacks the ability to properly cool. Suggest to remove it from the loop. The fan you have wont do nothing to cool the rad.
The stock fans from Arc R2, is not good for cooling rads. Lacks any airflow to flow through. To use low speeds fans, P/P is better and you have room to do that.

Thanks for the great info, revising my fans now.
post #2908 of 20767
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Originally Posted by GioV View Post

Maybe you guys can diagnose a problem for me, I just finish installing extra radiators on my H220, it looks great but my temps leave much to be desired. Max temps are around 60C and idle temps hover between 35-40C, maybe 1-2C difference with fans and pump at full speed.

I have bled the system as much as I can, fluid is always topped off every time I open the rad. For reference, I am using a mix of Swiftech HydrX PM Coolant and some distilled water.

All my hardware is at stock, nothing is overclocked. I am using a Swiftech Komodo 7900 water block, a Koolance 120mm rad and a Alphacool 280mm rad. Currently the 280mm rad is set to push air inside the case and the other 2 rads and the back fan are pushing air out. Any tips on how I can improve my system would be greatly appreciated, this is my first time making a custom loop




*edit* Prior to expanding my H220 I would get CPU idle temps from 24-30C

Getting very similar temps with my 680 Lightning on LN2 bios. It is maxing my GPU around 58-60 after playing Metro LL for about an hour. Idle temps are around 35-38C, and full load around 58C



Should note that I have put the 120 in push pull with NF-12 netting me 3-5C which surprised me.
post #2909 of 20767
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Originally Posted by dramabeats View Post

same chip, tried a different header and no change.
going from 100% to 0% only drops it 25 rpm

I bet it'd work without the hub, but I'm not sure if it'll actually use PWM to control it


Been following this exchange between you and skullwipe. Maybe its simple misunderstanding.. let me recap my understanding:

post 2885, referring to the UDH3 bios setting: you say that your cpu_fan header is set to pwm. ok, but that's the operating mode (as opposed to voltage control).
There should also be a setting for allowing manual speed control - do you have it setup to manual mode in the bios ?

post 2889 referring to speedfan: you say you set it to manual, good.. but in 2890 you upload a screen shot, and the auto fan control is checked.

I just want to make sure that you have both the bios and speedfan in manual (uncheck the auto fan control in speedfan)

I would't try any other header than cpu_fan for now. let's first see if that works, then you can experiment with other headers.

The PWM splitter is a mere extension cord so to speak. If you can fully control your pump by pwm when it is connected to cpu_fan, then there is no reason for it not to work with the splitter, unless said splitter is defective. In which case, we just need to give you another one :-)
post #2910 of 20767
What kind of temps would one expect with H220 cooling an overclocked 3770k with added overclocked 680 to the loop? Only using provided 240mm rad.

Thanks
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