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post #3191 of 20731
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Originally Posted by MrStick89 View Post

Well my pump is dropping to 0rpm during load. Starting to regret buying this thing... considering that my 212+ would do 4.7@63c and my H220 does 4.9@61c. My friend with identical setup running an H80i is getting same temps as well on identical overclock. Am I doing something wrong or is this cooler just overpriced/overhyped?

Fx8350
990fxa-ud3
Corsair 400r
Your friend's H80i closed-loop is not expandable -- the H220 is. Maybe you didn't realize exactly what you were buying and what the benefits are?

As for the pump dropping, that's a legitimate issue that I'm sure Bryan and the others at Swiftech will be glad to help you out with.
post #3192 of 20731
Has anyone had a newer H220 that was not part of the first batch, that has had pump problems?
post #3193 of 20731
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Finally got control of my pump. Appears its either compatibility with my board or I have a defective PWM splitter. Plugged the pump only into the cpu header and disabled bios control, now I am able to control the pump speeds with speedfan. Still can't control the fans, my board has another pwm header for a separate channel. Connecting the two helix fans to the splitter, then the splitter to the other channel still causes the fans to run at full speed. Fans by themselves are able to be controlled without the splitter except both helix fans are pwm and I only have one pwm header free.

Send an email to bryan@swiftech.com with your invoice for this kit and I'll send you out a replacement PWM splitter.
post #3194 of 20731
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Your friend's H80i closed-loop is not expandable -- the H220 is. Maybe you didn't realize exactly what you were buying and what the benefits are?

As for the pump dropping, that's a legitimate issue that I'm sure Bryan and the others at Swiftech will be glad to help you out with.


I knew exactly what I was buying and that is why I waited patiently for an H220 to come in stock. I had just hoped for some better performance is all.

I was under the impression I can control the fans and pump separately using the splitter. Should I plug the pump into CPU_Fan and my splitter into sys_fan?
Edited by MrStick89 - 5/24/13 at 9:21am
    
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usually no. Unless the backplate was somehow shorting against something on the motherboard. There's nothing other than the mounting mechanism and waterblock that touches the motherboard/cpu.

sorry i should have been clearer, what i mean is, if the pump were faulty, perhaps my mobo would prevent the system from booting in order to protect the cpu

there does seem to be more noise than i expected coming from the pump though, it is the constant sound of water either flowing or trying to flow. i opened the cap on the rad/res and it didnt seem at a low level at all
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Your friend's H80i closed-loop is not expandable -- the H220 is. Maybe you didn't realize exactly what you were buying and what the benefits are?

As for the pump dropping, that's a legitimate issue that I'm sure Bryan and the others at Swiftech will be glad to help you out with.

I knew exactly what I was buying and that is why I waited patiently for an H220 to come in stock. I had just hoped for some better performance is all.

I was under the impression I can control the fans and pump separately using the splitter. Should I plug the pump into CPU_Fan and my splitter into sys_fan?
All of these coolers will come within 5C of each other and results only differ as a result of many other variables -- TIM, ambient temps, case temps, air flow in the case, types of fans used, etc.

This kit differentiates itself by having high performance results AND by being the cheapest "all-in-one expandable kit" on the market. IMO, it's the combination of those two things that make the price and hype reasonable. You apparently know that, though, so your question "am I doing something wrong or is this cooler just overpriced/overhyped?" didn't make much sense to me...

EDIT: What fans do you have on the H220 radiator? How many? Are they set up as exhausts, or intakes? Where is the rad located in your case?
post #3197 of 20731
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Originally Posted by MrStick89 View Post

Well my pump is dropping to 0rpm during load. Starting to regret buying this thing... considering that my 212+ would do 4.7@63c and my H220 does 4.9@61c. My friend with identical setup running an H80i is getting same temps as well on identical overclock. Am I doing something wrong or is this cooler just overpriced/overhyped?

Fx8350
990fxa-ud3
Corsair 400r

Edit: got it to not drop to 0rpm by changing to voltage in the bios. But now it runs a constant 3k rpm.

Can you confirm that your CPU temps spike during the episodes when your RPMs drop to 0? I've recently had an issue with a customer complaining of the same issue and it turned out his motherboard was falsely reporting his RPMs because at no time did his CPU temps spike.
post #3198 of 20731
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Originally Posted by paleh0rse14 View Post

All of these coolers will come within 5C of each other and results only differ as a result of many other variables -- TIM, ambient temps, case temps, air flow in the case, types of fans used, etc.

This kit differentiates itself by having high performance results AND by being the cheapest "all-in-one expandable kit" on the market. IMO, it's the combination of those two things that make the price and hype reasonable. You apparently know that, though, so your question "am I doing something wrong or is this cooler just overpriced/overhyped?" didn't make much sense to me...

EDIT: What fans do you have on the H220 radiator? How many? Are they set up as exhausts, or intakes? Where is the rad located in your case?

Yes I understand this, I wasn't trying to bash the cooler. Maybe I was just the one "overhyped" after reading so much about these.

I am using the stock helix fans as exhaust on top of the radiator(pulling) which is fastened to the top of my 400R I also have an 80mm fan blowing on my VRMs since I wasn't getting enough air flow in that area without a CPU fan blowing. Would these be better pushing through the radiator? I'm not sure if I have room for push/pull without modifying my case unfortunately.
    
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Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Asus R9 290x  G.skill trident x 2400mhz CL10 16gb 128GB OCZ SSD 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Asus Blu-ray Swiftech H220 Win7 ASUS VG248QE 120hz Lightboost/Asus 23"  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX850 Corsair 400R Logitech G9x Steel series 
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Asus Blu-ray Swiftech H220 Win7 ASUS VG248QE 120hz Lightboost/Asus 23"  
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post #3199 of 20731
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Yes I understand this, I wasn't trying to bash the cooler. Maybe I was just the one "overhyped" after reading so much about these.

I am using the stock helix fans as exhaust on top of the radiator(pulling) which is fastened to the top of my 400R I also have an 80mm fan blowing on my VRMs since I wasn't getting enough air flow in that area without a CPU fan blowing. Would these be better pushing through the radiator? I'm not sure if I have room for push/pull without modifying my case unfortunately.

You will get better performance with the fans pushing rather than pulling.
post #3200 of 20731
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I am using the stock helix fans as exhaust on top of the radiator(pulling) which is fastened to the top of my 400R I also have an 80mm fan blowing on my VRMs since I wasn't getting enough air flow in that area without a CPU fan blowing. Would these be better pushing through the radiator? I'm not sure if I have room for push/pull without modifying my case unfortunately.
First and foremost, YES, switch them to act as intakes to PUSH the outside air through the radiator! Remember, your goal is to cool the water in the loop, not the air inside the case. wink.gif In your current config, you're pulling hot air from inside the case through the radiator! Not good!

My setup involves 13 fans and 3 radiators. Of those, all of the rads are setup as intakes, and only ONE of the fans in the entire system is set up as an exhaust at the upper-rear of the case...
Edited by paleh0rse14 - 5/24/13 at 10:09am
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