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post #3531 of 20728
Did a little testing today with the H220 on my still lidded 3570k. Results from running prime for only 30 minutes with a room temp of 22c. Pump on full blast for all tests.

Default (3.4/3.6 turbo boost): Max temp 51c
4.3ghz at 1.23v: Max temp 67c
4.5ghz at 1.27v: Max temp 77c
4.8ghz at 1.35v: Max temp 90c

Definitely, even with the lid on, warmer than I had been hoping.
post #3532 of 20728
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz View Post

Did a little testing today with the H220 on my still lidded 3570k. Results from running prime for only 30 minutes with a room temp of 22c. Pump on full blast for all tests.

Default (3.4/3.6 turbo boost): Max temp 51c
4.3ghz at 1.23v: Max temp 67c
4.5ghz at 1.27v: Max temp 77c
4.8ghz at 1.35v: Max temp 90c

Definitely, even with the lid on, warmer than I had been hoping.
Missing a few info?
What you use for de-lidded?
Thermal paste used?
Setup of H220?
Speed and type of fans for H220?
Case fan setup and speed?
Any restriction or obstacles blocking airflow?
    
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post #3533 of 20728
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Originally Posted by Sp33d Junki3 View Post

Missing a few info?
What you use for de-lidded?
Thermal paste used?
Setup of H220?
Speed and type of fans for H220?
Case fan setup and speed?
Any restriction or obstacles blocking airflow?

Not delidded.
MX4
Standard push with stock fans (blowing outside air in)
2 140mm fans and a 120mm case fans on full tilt
No airflow obstructions.
post #3534 of 20728
Pump ended up getting so noisy I had to do something...

I drained the system through a coffee filter and flushed with distilled water... Ran the system through about a gallon of distilled off and on while pausing to tilt and shake the rad around to dislodge whatever might have been in there. Then refilled with the OG fluid and topped off with distilled water after having let it run while tilting for over an hour to rid the air from the system.

This is what I found:



whatever it is its metal... No more "grinding" or "gurgling"... My temps are much better now as well, about 4-5c full load lower (Didn't expect this... but amazed non the less).

ADDED: the dime was place for size reference next to the foreign black objects that came out of the loop.
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post #3535 of 20728
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Pump ended up getting so noisy I had to do something...

I drained the system through a coffee filter and flushed with distilled water... Ran the system through about a gallon of distilled off and on while pausing to tilt and shake the rad around to dislodge whatever might have been in there. Then refilled with the OG fluid and topped off with distilled water after having let it run while tilting for over an hour to rid the air from the system.

This is what I found:



whatever it is its metal... No more "grinding" or "gurgling"... My temps are much better now as well, about 4-5c full load lower (Didn't expect this... but amazed non the less).

ADDED: the dime was place for size reference next to the foreign black objects that came out of the loop.
I would have to guess that came out of the radiator.

Koolance makes a couple of different filters that look cool and use a larger metal screen that is probably lower in restriction. Never tried one myself but it would have probably prevented your debris issue and perhaps many others if installed between rad and pump.

ins-fltr04_p1-700x700.jpg

ins-fltr03_p1-700x700.jpg

Might be something to consider..

I think the pump is just less debris tolerant than spherical bearing pumps. Not that you would expect to find that sort of debris, but it is a folded fin soldering constructed raditor where flux amd metal scaling is bound to happen. I have had my own share of debris finding in custom cooling parts. As much as we think parts are perfectly clean, it is mass production and crap does end up breaking loose over time even with really good cleaning up front. More rigorous cleaning at the factory may help, but I doubt it will prevent all. An inline filter "might" just be the simple protective solution to consider. Would be interesting as a test if nothing else.
    
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post #3536 of 20728
Hey folks. I'm considering purchasing this AIO as I have had a bad experience with the Corsair H100 in the past.

I am wondering if anyone knows if this unit will fit nicely on a MSI Z77 Mpower Motherboard and also if it fits in the Corsair 200r?
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I would have to guess that came out of the radiator.

Koolance makes a couple of different filters that look cool and use a larger metal screen that is probably lower in restriction. Never tried one myself but it would have probably prevented your debris issue and perhaps many others if installed between rad and pump.

ins-fltr04_p1-700x700.jpg

ins-fltr03_p1-700x700.jpg

Might be something to consider..

I think the pump is just less debris tolerant than spherical bearing pumps. Not that you would expect to find that sort of debris, but it is a folded fin soldering constructed raditor where flux amd metal scaling is bound to happen. I have had my own share of debris finding in custom cooling parts. As much as we think parts are perfectly clean, it is mass production and crap does end up breaking loose over time even with really good cleaning up front. More rigorous cleaning at the factory may help, but I doubt it will prevent all. An inline filter "might" just be the simple protective solution to consider. Would be interesting as a test if nothing else.

its a great idea... and maybe should be included with a AIO like this. I am however very understanding of it... it happens, I work in the field and see it all the time. Im just glad I was lucky to be able to flush it out. ;-)

Thought I'd post my findings, and thanks for the filter heads up! thumb.gif
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post #3538 of 20728
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz View Post

Did a little testing today with the H220 on my still lidded 3570k. Results from running prime for only 30 minutes with a room temp of 22c. Pump on full blast for all tests.

Default (3.4/3.6 turbo boost): Max temp 51c
4.3ghz at 1.23v: Max temp 67c
4.5ghz at 1.27v: Max temp 77c
4.8ghz at 1.35v: Max temp 90c

Definitely, even with the lid on, warmer than I had been hoping.

That's about or a little better what I'm seeing, my temps hit 85c at 4.5 GHz on 1.28v with an ambient of 28c. This is using the Swiftech TIM.
post #3539 of 20728
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Originally Posted by Diablo85 View Post

Hey guys, I've got this near atrocious noise coming from my H220 that just started a couple of days ago. It sounds like a whirring/grinding noise and the noise is NOT coming from any of the 4 fans I have in a push/pull setup on the H220. I made a video about it. Help! Pardon the quality/darkness. I just woke up a few minutes ago and didn't turn any lights on in my room.

edit: fixed the video link
Got the same sound coming from my unit. RMA should be here monday.
post #3540 of 20728
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Originally Posted by Martinm210 View Post

I would have to guess that came out of the radiator.

Koolance makes a couple of different filters that look cool and use a larger metal screen that is probably lower in restriction. Never tried one myself but it would have probably prevented your debris issue and perhaps many others if installed between rad and pump.

ins-fltr04_p1-700x700.jpg

ins-fltr03_p1-700x700.jpg

Might be something to consider..

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The problem with your solution is that if one doesn't want to expand their system they will be having one problem after another. I am buying it as a closed loop with only future consideration tom expand. I should not have to install a filter to get 3 years of reliability from the pump. It is obligatory for Swiftech to fix the manufacturing technique on the radiator or redesign the pump to eliminate this potential problem.
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