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post #3791 of 20784
That Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige looks impressive so far but a bit pricey at $180 per Newegg. Gives the 280mm Kraken X60 a run for its money. Beats the Corsair H110. It even has fittings so you can change out the tubing.
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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/cooler_master_eisberg_240l_review,1.html


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post #3792 of 20784
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That Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige looks impressive so far but a bit pricey at $180 per Newegg. Gives the 280mm Kraken X60 a run for its money. Beats the Corsair H110.


Cost is nothing if a Unit fails and leaks on your hardware....

We know Antec and Corsair will..

But will Cooler Master or Swiftech?

If CoolerMaster does take my extra 40$ piece of mind is priceless.
    
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Think that cooler master unit has been out for a while but it's just now available here in the USA. Saw a video where they demo'ed the pump, it was quite strong.
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Did you also provide power to the splitter directly from the PSU? The devices attached to the splitter can't all be power by a single mobo fan header, so the splitter takes power from a molex connector. W/o plugging that in, the devices on the splitter wouldn't be getting any power.

Really want to +1 this comment so he sees it, if you don't have the molex from the splitter plugged into your power supply you run the risk of burning out the fan header you're using.
post #3795 of 20784
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Originally Posted by savagepagan View Post

That Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige looks impressive so far but a bit pricey at $180 per Newegg. Gives the 280mm Kraken X60 a run for its money. Beats the Corsair H110. It even has fittings so you can change out the tubing.
Review.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/cooler_master_eisberg_240l_review,1.html


the trade off would be higher initial investment (it's more expensive to start, and then since it uses non standard tubing and barbs, you'll have to spend another +20 bucks for standard fittings and tubing.

On the other hand it might be more reliable.
 
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Cost is nothing if a Unit fails and leaks on your hardware....

We know Antec and Corsair will..

But will Cooler Master or Swiftech?

If CoolerMaster does take my extra 40$ piece of mind is priceless.

I like the fittings and radiator Cooler Master is using, but the pump/res/block combo is worrisome to me. It just feels like too many points of failure crammed into the most important piece of the cooler. I'm more interested in the Nanoxia unit that's being shown at Computex, though they will only say it's under development. Antec is also showing off a new unit with pumps integrated into the fans, really weird looking.

post #3797 of 20784
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I like the fittings and radiator Cooler Master is using, but the pump/res/block combo is worrisome to me. It just feels like too many points of failure crammed into the most important piece of the cooler. I'm more interested in the Nanoxia unit that's being shown at Computex, though they will only say it's under development. Antec is also showing off a new unit with pumps integrated into the fans, really weird looking.


After having one Fail on me im trying to get away from Block/pump combos it is the worst place a leak could ever happen.

Even Swiftechs premiere unit leaked on me.. And there reps will not reply to my Pm's





I like Swiftechs Kit where the Pump is on the rad.. seems much more safe and much harder to fail.
    
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I like the fittings and radiator Cooler Master is using, but the pump/res/block combo is worrisome to me. It just feels like too many points of failure crammed into the most important piece of the cooler.

The Eisberg pump is made by Alphacool, who have a lot of experience in the custom watercooling space. I'll rather use their products than some no-name in the watercooling buisness. But, of course the Eisberg is still new on the market, and till a lot of people try it out we don't know if it's reliable in the long run.
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The Eisberg pump is made by Alphacool, who have a lot of experience in the custom watercooling space. I'll rather use their products than some no-name in the watercooling buisness. But, of course the Eisberg is still new on the market, and till a lot of people try it out we don't know if it's reliable in the long run.

Well now that ive had a failure of a Product like these pump/block combos...

It kind of make sme think about it alittle..

These are ...

1. A water block

2. a pump

Smashed into one.. With just a rubber O ring between the two.. built by some guy in China making 30 cents a day....

With these types of Units pressure forces it's self against all Areas of the O-Ring which is a Huge Area that can fail.

A real water block is a Sealed piece of Metal HeatKiller 3.0 Etc With 2 Fittings with a Small Area of failure and low Restrictions.


On these All in ones getting hot / cold and pressure forcing on all sides at all times causes a Large area of failure in the worst place a leak can happen in your system...

The cpu ... it drips on your Mother board your gpus.. and if u have a smaller case your Psu to.

A thing to factor in also is QC and how good of a product there putting out.... Is Swictechs Product cheaper then Cooler Masters because..

1. it is made in China VS Germany

2. the seals / products used are not on par with the products Cooler Master is using?

When two Items made to compete with Eachother are not the same price and one company knows this " Cooler Master " it must mean said company has went the extra mile on there product.
    
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Well now that ive had a failure of a Product like these pump/block combos...

It kind of make sme think about it alittle..

These are ...

1. A water block

2. a pump

Smashed into one.. With just a rubber O ring between the two.. built by some guy in China making 30 cents a day....

With these types of Units pressure forces it's self against all Areas of the O-Ring which is a Huge Area that can fail.

A real water block is a Sealed piece of Metal HeatKiller 3.0 Etc With 2 Fittings with a Small Area of failure and low Restrictions.


On these All in ones getting hot / cold and pressure forcing on all sides at all times causes a Large area of failure in the worst place a leak can happen in your system...

The cpu ... it drips on your Mother board your gpus.. and if u have a smaller case your Psu to.

A thing to factor in also is QC and how good of a product there putting out.... Is Swictechs Product cheaper then Cooler Masters because..

1. it is made in China VS Germany

2. the seals / products used are not on par with the products Cooler Master is using?

When two Items made to compete with Eachother are not the same price and one company knows this " Cooler Master " it must mean said company has went the extra mile on there product.

I understand your frustration, but like I told you in my PM to you, this is the first time that this has occurred with our Apogee Drive II water block/ pump assembly. Our only issues with leaks with our H220 kit has been with a couple of units that had fittings that leaked. We've since implemented the necessary changes to prevent this issue. Since you didn't purchase the Drive II directly from us, the best we can do is replace it with another Apogee Drive II assembly. For refund or exchange support, you'll need to go through the reseller. This is pretty standard throughout the industry. Either way we would like to get this Drive II unit back from you so that we can determine what went wrong with it. Again, I do understand your frustration and we'll do what we can within the confines of our warranty policy.
Edited by BramSLI1 - 6/10/13 at 4:11pm
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