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I just received my H220 in the UK. It is damaged so it looks like I will be waiting for another month! Plus, it cost by about 175 Euro!


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Why did you quote what i already gave him credit for ? I do not know it all i just know quite a bit. Do you own a H 220? Or did you just follow me here?

I did plumbing for a Multi Million dollar swimming pool company for 10 years .. Until i destroyed my Shoulder.. Built million dollar pools with 2 = 3 inch fittings and from 1 1/2 HP pumps to 3 HP pumps Deck jets vanishing edges i know quite abit about Water cooling and plumbing

PC water cooling is the same thing Just far scaled down version.

I do Own 4 Swiftech Pumps 3 swiftech rads 2 Swiftech blocks and a Swiftech H20 220 EDGE HD <-- i love this and suggest it to everyone...

I was able to test all my WC hardware with it... it is like a Mobile WC kit i love it lol.
I feel your pain. How old was the cpu block that failed?
post #3823 of 20215
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I just received my H220 in the UK. It is damaged so it looks like I will be waiting for another month! Plus, it cost by about 175 Euro!



Could you explain those pics a bit? The first one is a bit hard to see from the flash. In the second one is the damage in the rad or the fan?
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I just received my H220 in the UK. It is damaged so it looks like I will be waiting for another month! Plus, it cost by about 175 Euro! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


that sucks man ~ should hit up bram or gabe both will get you fixed !~
bram is on every day and really quick about answering
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Could you explain those pics a bit? The first one is a bit hard to see from the flash. In the second one is the damage in the rad or the fan?

+1
in the bottome i see an extra piece under the fan
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post #3825 of 20215
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I feel your pain. How old was the cpu block that failed?

Invoice says i got it in Dec 2012

I did not start using it till maybe march tho In Feb is was leak tested.

Ive Got 3 Water cooled systems so trying to bounce parts between the 3 to test stuff is a pita lol.
    
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Could you explain those pics a bit? The first one is a bit hard to see from the flash. In the second one is the damage in the rad or the fan?

First pic shows bad kink on the tube. It is very obvious when looking at the unit in person.
Second pic, the fan is broken in 3 places and the fan blades are almost fully detached from the shroud. I have highlighted 1 of the 3 broken areas. Cheers.

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that sucks man ~ should hit up bram or gabe both will get you fixed !~
bram is on every day and really quick about answering
+1
in the bottome i see an extra piece under the fan

I will contact them later if they don't see my post on this thread. Thanks buddy.
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Invoice says i got it in Dec 2012

I did not start using it till maybe march tho In Feb is was leak tested.

Ive Got 3 Water cooled systems so trying to bounce parts between the 3 to test stuff is a pita lol.

I think the industry has to start rethinking its warranty for defective product. On something that NEW a purchase, if the leak is strictly due to manufacturing defect they should be responsible for damage to all computer components. But the custom loop manufacturers do NOT see it that way. Swiftech probably has the same warranty as the other competitors have. But in this particular instance where the head fails and leaks.,they should be responsible for motherboard and if graphics card and cpu fail also for them. Even if it meant an extra $5 in price per unit to cover damages, it would give a sigh of relief to the customer. If there is an industry association for custom loop manufacturers, it would be nice if we could contact them and also if Gabe would advocate for us so that they could change the industry warranty standards. One company is going to be fearful to change it on their own and face higher costs in a competitive market. Of course that company could use their warranty as a SELLING POINT in their advertising and product demos. That puts a lot of heat on the competition as far as warranty coverage.

The other commentators here who say it just happens are being subjective. This was not an act of God. It was caused by a scientifically determinable reason. The fly and the windshield is Not an apt analogy.
Edited by os2wiz - 6/11/13 at 8:42am
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I think the industry has to start rethinking its warranty for defective product. On something that NEW a purchase, if the leak is strictly due to manufacturing defect they should be responsible for damage to all computer components. But the custom loop manufacturers do NOT see it that way. Swiftech probably has the same warranty as the other competitors have. But in this particular instance where the head fails and leaks.,they should be responsible for motherboard and if graphics card and cpu fail also for them. Even if it meant an extra $5 in price per unit to cover damages, it would give a sigh of relief to the customer. If there is an industry association for custom loop manufacturers, it would be nice if we could contact them and also if Gabe would advocate for us so that they could change the industry warranty standards. One company is going to be fearful to change it on their own and face higher costs in a competitive market. Of course that company could use their warranty as a SELLING POINT in their advertising and product demos. That puts a lot of heat on the competition as far as warranty coverage.

The other commentators here who say it just happens are being subjective. This was not an act of God. It was caused by a scientifically determinable reason. The fly and the windshield is Not an apt analogy.

They are responsible for the damages a defect of there product caused.

But under there policy's they will not cover it you have to take a Legal action.. Just like you would if you bought something Like a car... and it caught fire and burned your garage down...

Your insurance company Pays you .. in return the insurance company sues the maker of the car... and the maker of the car goes to the maker of the item that caused the damages.

There are afew other options

You can buy insurance for your computer

Or you can clean the damaged parts up and RMA them.. which is not fair to said company cause it is not there fault.

The Best option to me is this..

Water cooling Company's offer a optional insurance fee to cover damaged parts due to a Manufacturing Defect...

There increased sales and the Fee would more then cover the losses and they would profit from it much more then lose...
A company has to be willing to give that level of customer service tho...

They would have to have it where u have to send your hardware in for testing to.
Edited by Hokies83 - 6/11/13 at 9:46am
    
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Installed mine over the weekend but having some difficulty with the PWM settings.
What's even stranger is that if I set it to a custom level in the BIOS, changing the speeds on speedfan makes no difference at all.
I had it kinda working earlier by setting a target temp and level, but even then it used to shoot up to about 2000 RPM, since the fans are all controlled via the same PWM, this makes the whole system a little noisier than I'd hoped.
Will have to tweak it a little more I guess, DAMN you Asrock!!

Installed it in my Arc Mini at the top but as an intake with the side panel fan as an exhaust, must say I'm really happy with the temps overall
CPU Cores idle between about 24 - 28 (Each of them varies) - This is with roughly 21 Ambient.

Planning on pushing the CPU (which has no overclock now) a little when I get time

Now all I need is for the Komodo block to be on promotion somewhere
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They are responsible for the damages a defect of there product caused.

But under there policy's they will not cover it you have to take a Legal action.. Just like you would if you bought something Like a car... and it caught fire and burned your garage down...

Your insurance company Pays you .. in return the insurance company sues the maker of the car... and the maker of the car goes to the maker of the item that caused the damages.

There are afew other options

You can buy insurance for your computer

Or you can clean the damaged parts up and RMA them.. which is not fair to said company cause it is not there fault.

The Best option to me is this..

Water cooling Company's offer a optional insurance fee to cover damaged parts due to a Manufacturing Defect...

There increased sales and the Fee would more then cover the losses and they would profit from it much more then lose...
A company has to be willing to give that level of customer service tho...

They would have to have it where u have to send your hardware in for testing to.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Corsair covers damage from leaks to any other components in the computer. I do understand that this product isn't exactly in the same category, but it would be nice if it carried a similar warranty for those who wish to utilize this without any modifications at all.

Edit: Here is a post from someone that contacted Corsair by phone.
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