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Hi, I ordered an h220 recently and it came today. Installed it fine in an arc midi r2 but when i went into the uefi, i noticed 80c idle temps so i checked if the pump was running. It was completely silent and not dectected by fan xpert. Should i return it to the store or see if swiftech can replace it?

Try connecting the pump via the splitter in the red port. If that doesn't work try connecting the pump directly to the CPU header. If that doesn't work... try connecting to BramSLI1 wink.gif


On another note.. I hate how people keep quoting os2wiz... Still having to see his useless ramblings of the "man" trying to get him to waste money on the wrong water cooling gear, or how his opinion of the way something should work, somehow should negate the physics of a situation hurts my head. Is there any way to voteban someone from a thread? xD
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My understanding is that the P12's have slightly lower pressure and air flow, but seeing as the H220 uses a low FPI radiator I guess that really won't matter. Sadly martin doesn't have a video up for the P12's, and it's hard to compare sounds if the testing isn't standardized, know what I mean?

Edit: I run my fans on a separate header than the Pump, so I guess I don't need to stick with PWM control. I don't think running two AP-15's off a single header should be an issue.

The P12 and F12 are both great fans. Like you said, the F12 is geared towards static pressure. The F12 also has a higher rpm limit (1500 vs 1300) as well which could make a bit of a difference. Some people have also reported a slightly different noise profile when both fans are used on radiators.
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On another note.. I hate how people keep quoting os2wiz... Still having to see his useless ramblings of the "man" trying to get him to waste money on the wrong water cooling gear, or how his opinion of the way something should work, somehow should negate the physics of a situation hurts my head. Is there any way to voteban someone from a thread? xD

You are absolutely right. He is blocked now.
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post #4384 of 20767
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Originally Posted by Turt1e View Post

Hi, I ordered an h220 recently and it came today. Installed it fine in an arc midi r2 but when i went into the uefi, i noticed 80c idle temps so i checked if the pump was running. It was completely silent and not dectected by fan xpert. Should i return it to the store or see if swiftech can replace it?

Try bypassing the PWM splitter and plugging directly into the motherboard! I had the same problem!
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My understanding is that the P12's have slightly lower pressure and air flow, but seeing as the H220 uses a low FPI radiator I guess that really won't matter. Sadly martin doesn't have a video up for the P12's, and it's hard to compare sounds if the testing isn't standardized, know what I mean?

Edit: I run my fans on a separate header than the Pump, so I guess I don't need to stick with PWM control. I don't think running two AP-15's off a single header should be an issue.
Here is the NF-P12 sound. I had the NF-F12, and the difference in sound is big. Its from the channel flow. I didnt like the sound profile of the NF-F12.
High SP fans is not needed for a thin rad with low FPI.

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Try connecting the pump via the splitter in the red port. If that doesn't work try connecting the pump directly to the CPU header. If that doesn't work... try connecting to BramSLI1 wink.gif


On another note.. I hate how people keep quoting os2wiz... Still having to see his useless ramblings of the "man" trying to get him to waste money on the wrong water cooling gear, or how his opinion of the way something should work, somehow should negate the physics of a situation hurts my head. Is there any way to voteban someone from a thread? xD

The funny thing is os2wiz quoting Martin as having a scientific approach to measure things (which I agree btw) only to a few posts back to attack him very personally calling him a Neanderthal....

You should revise your way to talk about things and to people dude...Very angry and have no place in forums like this.

I hope for the sake of Gabe and Bryan Health that his h320 never give any trouble....
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The funny thing is os2wiz quoting Martin as having a scientific approach to measure things (which I agree btw) only to a few posts back to attack him very personally calling him a Neanderthal....

You should revise your way to talk about things and to people dude...Very angry and have no place in forums like this.

I have to agree with Gabrielzm here. Martin is one of the few reviewers that actually takes a very scientific approach to his reviews and he is very meticulous in his methodology. oz2wiz doesn't always use very good tact, but some of his arguments are quite good. That's just my 2 cents.
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Took a leap of faith and ordered one from sidewinder. Hey there Bram, do you know whether existing stocks are the latest batch with the earlier issues fixed? It seems there have been rather high no. of defective units. Thats worrying for me if it start dripping..

Still conflicted to hear users here saying that SA is minimally +/- against the H220 in terms of noise and temps. Though a few sites have reviewed H220 to be 5-10 dC cooler. Dont quite understand the variance here and even within site reviews?? Anyone could explain?

Since im kinda bored with the PC industry at the moment, just wanted to dip my feet in water cooling, If things dont work out, i could sell the H220 since the unit seems pretty in demand.
    
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Took a leap of faith and ordered one from sidewinder. Hey there Bram, do you know whether existing stocks are the latest batch with the earlier issues fixed? It seems there have been rather high no. of defective units. Thats worrying for me if it start dripping..

Still conflicted to hear users here saying that SA is minimally +/- against the H220 in terms of noise and temps. Though a few sites have reviewed H220 to be 5-10 dC cooler. Dont quite understand the variance here and even within site reviews?? Anyone could explain?

Since im kinda bored with the PC industry at the moment, just wanted to dip my feet in water cooling, If things dont work out, i could sell the H220 since the unit seems pretty in demand.

All existing stock of these kits should have the necessary QC changes to ensure that the coolant is free from debris and that the pump will be quiet. With that being said, as I'm sure you're aware this is a forum where people will come to discuss issues that they're having with the product. Being that this is the case and that it's human nature to discuss problems with a product more often than to issue praise when it works; this gives the false impression that there have been quite a few issues and complaints with this product. I can assure you that the vast majority of those that own this kit have experienced no issues with it.

The variations in review results is most likely due to the variance in the methodology used during testing. As I've previously stated, Martin of MartinsLiquidLab is one of the most scientific reviewers out there and his methodology is quite meticulous. I value his reviews more than say 20 others that show varying degrees of performance and don't really tend to discuss the particulars of their testing methods. I'm not saying that Martin is perfect, but I trust his reviews more than most others simply because of his scientific and meticulous methodology. His tests can also be duplicated by others, if they follow his methodology, and that's what truly sets him apart in my opinion.
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STOCK TIM-mate that came with the H220.

from peoples responses, they say the scatches are harmless.

but i was still shocked because i take really good care of my components (handling by edges, wearing anti static band etc...),

so I was shocked to see the scratch on there after I took the CPU block off. then I noticed it was symmetrical with the CPU itself.

it's normal to have scuff marks whenever you mount/dismount a cooler. You're putting quite a bit of pressure on two metal surfaces. Thermal paste doesnt really shield either since it should only be a very, very thin film if any between the two. Dont worry about it, because you will get more.
 
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