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Originally Posted by Teufelshunde View Post

Granted this is only one review. http://www.thinkcomputers.org/swiftech-h220-adding-to-the-loop/3/ What I did get from it was that swapping to a thicker radiator gave more benefit than adding too it. Stating that there are 100's too the contrary w/o linking even a few of those 100's adds no benefit to the conversation. I would much rather have half a dozen independent reviews vs 100's of 'he said-she said' comments from a forum regarding the subject. I linked that test review a couple days ago and got no response as I also was interested in expanding the loop but wanted more independent data if anyone had it. Until more independent reviewers actually expand the loop on the H220 people will just need to glean thru these and other forums and make a conscious decision for themselves.

your right there is not alot of good reviews out there. however let me put it this way
under short low level loads more rads will not help.

however under stress intensive programs ( say like video editing, blueray conversions, stress testing ect ) more rads will help

think about it this way. more rads = more surface area , more surface area = more area to transfer heat out of water and into the air, OR an ability to run your system with lower speed fans and gain silence.

so ( and this is where i assumed you were using cpu intensive programs, as this is OCN, however i could of been 100% wrong to do this ) if you are just browsing the webs it simply will not help your temps, newish games.... it may depending on the game, and of course your overclock, and it probably will help under load.

best source for reviews on water cooling is martins, period. none better on the webs.

read up on martins for the bold statement.
thicker rads are USUALLY not more helpful. that is a case of bigger is better mentality.
key word helpful.
you will usually get MUCH more benefit adding another thin rad then more thick rads esp for the cost ( i am assuming you are using a reasonable brand rad ) because the cost of a thicker rad is much more then a thin one AND the cost of the higher performance, and relatively high static pressure fans you need greatly out weigh the cost of a thin rad and decent fans.

a thicker rad takes much more static pressure to push air through it. also gennerally need to run your fans at higher speeds to get gains
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The Monsta radiators, with a thickness of 80mm, are the first of their size on the market. Hence we were just as keen on finding out how they perform as the independent reviewers!
The tests show that it has significantly increased flow rates than thinner radiators. The cooling performance increased greatly with increased fan speed. Sounds normal, but this radiator shows a different performance profile than standard radiators: At 500rpm the Monsta is slightly better than its 60mm brother, but with increasing fan speed the difference increases: At 800rpm the Monsta already performs much better, and at 1200rpm a Monsta radiator is performing almost as well as a 60mm thick radiator with one fan more, at the same fan speed!
This is truly amazing, and all that at this affordable price!
source

the cost of this "extra performance" is loss of silence, which in the end is a personal choice.

most people dont stress their pcs like most on OCN. most only need air coolers. for most people, adding additional rads IS pointless.

however if you do cpu intensive programs adding rads most definitely helps.
Edited by Mega Man - 7/4/13 at 8:43am
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Can I combine Distilled water along with the HydrX coolant?

I can't find any HydrX coolant here in DK :C
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Granted this is only one review. http://www.thinkcomputers.org/swiftech-h220-adding-to-the-loop/3/ What I did get from it was that swapping to a thicker radiator gave more benefit than adding too it. Stating that there are 100's too the contrary w/o linking even a few of those 100's adds no benefit to the conversation. I would much rather have half a dozen independent reviews vs 100's of 'he said-she said' comments from a forum regarding the subject. I linked that test review a couple days ago and got no response as I also was interested in expanding the loop but wanted more independent data if anyone had it. Until more independent reviewers actually expand the loop on the H220 people will just need to glean thru these and other forums and make a conscious decision for themselves.

That was my point. starting with a 360mm radiator instead of the 240mm would have a better effect than say adding an extra 120mm radiator to a 240mm. Thickness of radiator has little effect on temps as surface area with fans is a more decisive factor. So getting the H320 would be a better stating point if you have the room in your case. That is what I am waiting to purchase.
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Can I combine Distilled water along with the HydrX coolant?

I can't find any HydrX coolant here in DK :C
water is the #1 ingredient in any major brand coolant so... yes. make sure you use distilled though. dont buy into "ultra pure water" it does not work ( there are other coolants IE mineral oil )
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Can I combine Distilled water along with the HydrX coolant?

I can't find any HydrX coolant here in DK :C
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I took some time to read this thread. I got worried regarding all the various problems that users seem to encounter with the h220.
The h220 is impossible to buy online where i live, but i know a local store where i should be able to buy it, at the cost of a probably less effective customer support. To that extent, if my unit doesn't work properly, will i have to send it back to the US? Or is there a Swiftech RMA center in Europe?
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pretty sure there is an rma center locally, ill let bramsli pop in there. but you have to remember most people given the chance will complain. next to none will praise
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pretty sure there is an rma center locally, ill let bramsli pop in there. but you have to remember most people given the chance will complain. next to none will praise

right. i'm planning to go get it tomorrow, i'll try to negotiate with the salesman a local rma, just in case.. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by bobsaget View Post

I took some time to read this thread. I got worried regarding all the various problems that users seem to encounter with the h220.
The h220 is impossible to buy online where i live, but i know a local store where i should be able to buy it, at the cost of a probably less effective customer support. To that extent, if my unit doesn't work properly, will i have to send it back to the US? Or is there a Swiftech RMA center in Europe?

For RMA support in Europe, Bacata deals with our customers. So yes, you do have local RMA support in Europe.
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