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post #5561 of 20223
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Sounds to me like a BIOS issue, in which the CPU fan is only activated at a certain temperature. So after 45 min. everything would be cold, so the pump wouldn't be activated until it warms up. Possibility?

I def thought that as well. so i tested with another mobo and then sensor wire for the pwm splitter being plugged in so it should have run at full speed but no dice. the run with no sensor was repeated outside the case with another psu same thing... at the time i thought it was dead until after teardown drain refill and it started back up. tested out of case for 48 seemed fine. installed and tested without power 48 seemed fine. tested with benchmarks worked great. then after a few weeks had to leave the tower without power for a bit and bam no start back up. i remembered the first time i had issue i was moving SSDs on my setup and had left it shut down while working on the other tower before moving back to my main one. . further testing replicated the issue and brings me to where i am now... i can use it fine unless i have to leave my tower powered off for a bit.

I have not really figured out what gets it going .... heat does not seem to do it, as I found out the pump was not working by an alarm i have set for temps hitting 85c on the cpu, (under full load of gpu and cpu never gets close when pump is running).
post #5562 of 20223
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Just purchased the thing two minutes ago. I paid a total of around $185 US. I even used the Canada Express mail (4-7 days) instead of the UPS (5-8 days).

How did you pay in $CAD when you live in the states?
Also on NCIX it says Pre-order, how did you get yours? I thought it's not out yet.
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post #5563 of 20223
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How did you pay in $CAD when you live in the states?
Also on NCIX it says Pre-order, how did you get yours? I thought it's not out yet.

Paypal does the conversion. Also, yes you are right, I only per-ordered it.
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post #5564 of 20223
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Paypal does the conversion. Also, yes you are right, I only per-ordered it.

Oh I see so you paid with Paypal? What is the conversion ? Is it almost 1:1 ratio? How much is $159CAD in $US?
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post #5565 of 20223
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I def thought that as well. so i tested with another mobo and then sensor wire for the pwm splitter being plugged in so it should have run at full speed but no dice. the run with no sensor was repeated outside the case with another psu same thing... at the time i thought it was dead until after teardown drain refill and it started back up. tested out of case for 48 seemed fine. installed and tested without power 48 seemed fine. tested with benchmarks worked great. then after a few weeks had to leave the tower without power for a bit and bam no start back up. i remembered the first time i had issue i was moving SSDs on my setup and had left it shut down while working on the other tower before moving back to my main one. . further testing replicated the issue and brings me to where i am now... i can use it fine unless i have to leave my tower powered off for a bit.

I have not really figured out what gets it going .... heat does not seem to do it, as I found out the pump was not working by an alarm i have set for temps hitting 85c on the cpu, (under full load of gpu and cpu never gets close when pump is running).

it is possible your mobos are still using volts to control it. and the voltage being sent is not enough to start it, which mobo are you using? are you using the cpu header? did you set the header to pwm control ?
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post #5566 of 20223
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it is possible your mobos are still using volts to control it. and the voltage being sent is not enough to start it, which mobo are you using? are you using the cpu header? did you set the header to pwm control ?

main mobo is a gigabyte - ga-z77x-ud5h, alternat mobo was a MSI Z77MA-g45. also tried with splitter included in the h220 powered by molex and alternate splitter from swiftech. with control line in and out, two psus

i made sure to set the UDH5 to pwm i left it set to normal the other option is quite and manual. I had tried manual with the most volt per degree on the slope .... i cannot remember if the setting was offered on the g45, but on that mobo set the minimum speed to 75%
Edited by goddog - 8/6/13 at 9:37pm
post #5567 of 20223
i can tell you that controlling pwm with volts can damage the pwm board... rest ill have to defer to bram
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post #5568 of 20223
I have just fans on the pwm splitter. The pump is on the CPU header. Though 9 fans total lol 3 intake to 1 exhaust
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so I have a question for you guys. I have expanded my loop h220 and have been happy with performance. I have no issues when the tower is running (almost always 24/7) or if i have to restart. however, as of late if i leave my tower off for more than say about 45 min the pump does not start back up. have tested with multiple psu, and checked the pump cabling and all psu cabling for damage. none seen. i have had to tear down the loop twice. not really sure what got it to work again. i had torn down the loop to check for gunk, grim but none showed up in the filter


any ideas on whats causing this?

I am using the new blue hydrox for the loop, the loop has an EK 7970 lightning block, a swiftech mcr120-qp, and a mcres micro rev2 reservoir

The pump wont start if there is too much air in the block causing too much friction. This is gonna sound crazy but if pump doesnt start you gotta give it a nice slap.

When you were installing and uninstalling it you helped loosen that air and thats what got it running again. The new pump parts should help keep air out so we'll see.

Bram is on vacation so he may not chime in for about a week or two but I had same problem and that was his explanation and the slap worked.
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post #5570 of 20223
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The pump wont start if there is too much air in the block causing too much friction. This is gonna sound crazy but if pump doesnt start you gotta give it a nice slap.

When you were installing and uninstalling it you helped loosen that air and thats what got it running again. The new pump parts should help keep air out so we'll see.

Bram is on vacation so he may not chime in for about a week or two but I had same problem and that was his explanation and the slap worked.
I am getting an H320 delivered in less than a week. Is it likely to have the new pump parts???
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