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post #5871 of 20809
Just got 2 sp120 PE pwm in to replace the 2 helix fans. All I can say is wow, what a difference. The helix fans are good, but these sp120's are better I think. Its possible I knocked the helix fans off balance at some point as they were the loudest thing in my case, but it's much better now. Going to test load temps...
post #5872 of 20809
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Anybody have some Helix PWMs they don't want anymore? PM me if so. Or if you would rather some voltage-regulated Helix fans, I have 6 of those. I'm looking to switch all the Helix fans in my build to PWM.
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post #5873 of 20809
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Anybody have some Helix PWMs they don't want anymore? PM me if so. Or if you would rather some voltage-regulated Helix fans, I have 6 of those. I'm looking to switch all the Helix fans in my build to PWM.

Phelan, I have 3 Helix pwm fans. I was going to do push-pull, but all the dara says the radiator thickness does not justify it. I used a couple of screws from one fan. They are virgin , I never used the fans, as my H320 is still in transit, I can give them to you for $30 plus shipping. Say $7 . I'll send them USPS priority mail. Send me PM with details. Use paypal.
post #5874 of 20809
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Your source of noise is not the SP120, its the vibrations from using 2 different types of fans, you starve the one and cause all kinds of bad sound profile. If you insist on using 2 types of fans on a radiator, put the helix with the helix in P/P, and the SP120 with the other SP120 in P/P. In short, you're doing it wrong. My SP120s are much quieter than the helices in my Arc Midi R2.
Was a breeze, I did have an issue when trying to put the swivel barbs backwards, and you might have an issue if you use the lower OD bay, but other than that, dropped right in.

You really have no idea my situation and are assuming much from a picture.. the sp-120's I have had been tested on multiple rads and also just as case fans like I said in a post slightly down the page and also in my original post.. I am replacing these for Helix PWM's because having differing fans is not recommended. That being said for the couple weeks im waiting I dont mind using these sp-120's which for me are loud in any situation and the helix's seem to blow them away in terms of noise levels. Its a matter of preference and I am really not asking any questions or needing help here, I wanted to post a picture for people who just like to scan the h220 forums and look at the rigs. Thanks for trying to help me out
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Phelan, I have 3 Helix pwm fans. I was going to do push-pull, but all the dara says the radiator thickness does not justify it. I used a couple of screws from one fan. They are virgin , I never used the fans, as my H320 is still in transit, I can give them to you for $30 plus shipping. Say $7 . I'll send them USPS priority mail. Send me PM with details. Use paypal.

Your H320 already shipped? I thought NCIX doesn't have them yet until the 23th?
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You really have no idea my situation and are assuming much from a picture.. the sp-120's I have had been tested on multiple rads and also just as case fans like I said in a post slightly down the page and also in my original post.. I am replacing these for Helix PWM's because having differing fans is not recommended. That being said for the couple weeks im waiting I dont mind using these sp-120's which for me are loud in any situation and the helix's seem to blow them away in terms of noise levels. Its a matter of preference and I am really not asking any questions or needing help here, I wanted to post a picture for people who just like to scan the h220 forums and look at the rigs. Thanks for trying to help me out

So did you have those SP120s configured with other fans in P/P on your other rads? Because to me that picture looks like Helix's with SP120, which will cause a lot of noise.
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So did you have those SP120s configured with other fans in P/P on your other rads? Because to me that picture looks like Helix's with SP120, which will cause a lot of noise.

Yeah Iv used only sp-120's in the past these exact ones and others on different Rad's in push pull like the h70 rad and rs120 Iv used it with single fan and in P/P. Im sorry I just don't like the noise to performance they offer they have always been a to loud for my taste. I have a friend with h100i that has sp-120's on it in push pull and it is a loud ass setup, he plans to replace the fans asap and is not happy. In this picture you are correct about the fan setup, and really I have no idea why this is even in discussion.. I wasn't asking any questions or asking for any help. Like I stated previously.. I know that differing fans in p/p config is not ideal for noise but I have them on until my new helix fans arrive because it yielded better temps.

EDIT: Also every sp-120 I have bought has been from Fry's and I think this may have something to do with it because I believe they sell refurbished fans because in multiple purchases of the sp-120 at Frys I have had differing colored screws. Some black and some silver.
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Yeah Iv used only sp-120's in the past these exact ones and others on different Rad's in push pull like the h70 rad and rs120 Iv used it with single fan and in P/P. Im sorry I just don't like the noise to performance they offer they have always been a to loud for my taste. I have a friend with h100i that has sp-120's on it in push pull and it is a loud ass setup, he plans to replace the fans asap and is not happy. In this picture you are correct about the fan setup, and really I have no idea why this is even in discussion.. I wasn't asking any questions or asking for any help. Like I stated previously.. I know that differing fans in p/p config is not ideal for noise but I have them on until my new helix fans arrive because it yielded better temps.

EDIT: Also every sp-120 I have bought has been from Fry's and I think this may have something to do with it because I believe they sell refurbished fans because in multiple purchases of the sp-120 at Frys I have had differing colored screws. Some black and some silver.

It's in discussion because you said they are noisy and you have them in a configuration which will cause lots of noise for any fan combination. That sucks if you are getting refurb fans you thought were new, but the point of the SP120s isn't to run at max, its to run at lower RPMs because they have higher static pressure when running slower, and being very very quiet. Noticably better than the helix for instance.

Either way, to each their own.. If you have tried it in other combinations keeping like fans with each other and you are simply unhappy with the SP120, then good luck with your fan search smile.gif
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post #5879 of 20809
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Possibly related, you should be using the splitter even if only using the pump, to make sure the pump gets 12v all the time. If the pcb on the pump isn't reporting rpm anymore, it could be due to a voltage flux damaging it (under 12v to the pump will damage it). In other words, if the motherboard EVER modulated the pump speed with voltage instead of PWM (most PWM headers have a voltage option in the BIOS), it coulfd have set the damage in that you are now seeing the fruits of.

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also just because it is a 4 pin header does not mean it is pwm control

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Thanks for that Phelan, and I can confirm that we've seen this type of behavior also when the pump plug isn't connected properly to the header. If you miss align the plug and have it missing a pin to the right or the left this will damage the pump's ability to send an RPM signal.

Well, since I've installed the pump, I haven't removed the cable from the CPU header, and it was in properly. Could it possibly have been the motherboard's fault?

Edit: I have a Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H
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Well, since I've installed the pump, I haven't removed the cable from the CPU header, and it was in properly. Could it possibly have been the motherboard's fault?

Edit: I have a Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H

From time to time BIOS settings can be reversed automatically to default. Could be due to OC or even a power failure (electricity). If so would be wise to check what is the default option in your motherboard for the cpu 4 pin header. Is it in PWM mode or volt regulated mod? Make absolutely sure it is (and was) in PWM mode since as already stated volt regulation can cause the pump to fail.

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