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Originally Posted by bvsbutthd101 View Post

Okay, thats good then. So it's not the mounting screws or nuts. They look to be in good shape.

OK, then the only other things that would cause issues with your performance would be an increase in ambient temperature or some kind of blockage or obstruction in your loop. I'm guessing that your ambient temperatures haven't gone up so that would mean that it's got to be a blockage of some kind. Have you tried to flush the kit yet? If not then I would suggest that this is what you might need to do to resolve your issue.
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OK, then the only other things that would cause issues with your performance would be an increase in ambient temperature or some kind of blockage or obstruction in your loop. I'm guessing that your ambient temperatures haven't gone up so that would mean that it's got to be a blockage of some kind. Have you tried to flush the kit yet? If not then I would suggest that this is what you might need to do to resolve your issue.

Ambient room has actually gone down since winter is approaching. I just finished installing my old Corsair H50 and my temps back down again. Idling 26-27c. This is what the idle temps were at before which makes sense since it's close to my ambient room temp. I haven't tried flushing the kit yet. Guess it won't hurt to try. I don't have any coolant laying around. Should I buy some or is distilled water okay to use?
post #7753 of 20767
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Ambient room has actually gone down since winter is approaching. I just finished installing my old Corsair H50 and my temps back down again. Idling 26-27c. This is what the idle temps were at before which makes sense since it's close to my ambient room temp. I haven't tried flushing the kit yet. Guess it won't hurt to try. I don't have any coolant laying around. Should I buy some or is distilled water okay to use?

Distilled water is OK to use. You can also just reuse the coolant by filtering it with a coffee filter and pouring it into a clean container. Then just use some distilled water to top it off. Let me know if this resolves your issue with this kit.
post #7754 of 20767
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Originally Posted by BramSLI1 View Post

Distilled water is OK to use. You can also just reuse the coolant by filtering it with a coffee filter and pouring it into a clean container. Then just use some distilled water to top it off. Let me know if this resolves your issue with this kit.

Good idea, I'll do that then. Will report back. thumb.gif
post #7755 of 20767
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Originally Posted by marc0053 View Post

Im running a ASUS RIVE motherboard and the rpm of the pump indicates about 1950rpm
Here are a few loop configuration photos + bios snapshots Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)









I think you have a blockage in the loop and restriction. Are you going too add your GTX780 to the loop? You might want to run the pump at full speed.
See many different fans on Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 , running that many rads wont help decrease temps that much just for CPU only. Are all on intake? How well is your external temps?
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 is a low 10 FPI and push/pull is not needed.

What happens there is a thermal limit, as the adding more rads will scale less in lowering temps sometimes.
    
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post #7756 of 20767
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I think you have a blockage in the loop and restriction. Are you going too add your GTX780 to the loop? You might want to run the pump at full speed.
See many different fans on Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 , running that many rads wont help decrease temps that much just for CPU only. Are all on intake? How well is your external temps?
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 is a low 10 FPI and push/pull is not needed.

What happens there is a thermal limit, as the adding more rads will scale less in lowering temps sometimes.

I agree that there are diminishing returns when adding radiators, but to not have any noticeable difference at all just doesn't sound right. That's why I'm thinking that it's got to be some kind of a blockage in the loop that's causing performance issues.
post #7757 of 20767
I haven't put water back in the H220 yet but I drained it out. Here what came out of it.

Now I've never opened this until now.
post #7758 of 20767
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Originally Posted by Sp33d Junki3 View Post

I think you have a blockage in the loop and restriction. Are you going too add your GTX780 to the loop? You might want to run the pump at full speed.
See many different fans on Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 , running that many rads wont help decrease temps that much just for CPU only. Are all on intake? How well is your external temps?
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 is a low 10 FPI and push/pull is not needed.

What happens there is a thermal limit, as the adding more rads will scale less in lowering temps sometimes.

External temps are about 21 degree C and yes all rads are pulling fresh outside air into the case. I used to have 2 GTX Titans, heavily overclocked, in the same loop and CPU temperatures were identical before and after the video cards were in the loop. I will be adding a PNY GTX 780 to the loop shortly and possibly even 2 more 780 classies in the next few weeks.

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I agree that there are diminishing returns when adding radiators, but to not have any noticeable difference at all just doesn't sound right. That's why I'm thinking that it's got to be some kind of a blockage in the loop that's causing performance issues.

I will add a MCP35X pump soon and see if there are any improvements.
Initially I had the stock H220 unit (not expanded) on the cpu--only and the temperatures were similar to what I have today. Similar results after adding 2x UT60 240mm rads. Then, adding 2 gpus didn't change cpu temps, neither adding the motherboard block change anything.

The only thing that reduced temperatures until now was to remove 3 sticks of ram and only have 1 in place. These dropped temps by about 13C across the cores.
Edited by marc0053 - 11/18/13 at 3:05pm
post #7759 of 20767
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External temps are about 21 degree C and yes all rads are pulling fresh outside air into the case. I used to have 2 GTX Titans, heavily overclocked, in the same loop and CPU temperatures were identical before and after the video cards were in the loop. I will be adding a PNY GTX 780 to the loop shortly and possibly even 2 more 780 classies in the next few weeks.
I will add a MCP35X pump soon and see if there are any improvements.
Initially I had the stock H220 unit (not expanded) on the cpu--only and the temperatures were similar to what I have today. Similar results after adding 2x UT60 240mm rads. Then, adding 2 gpus didn't change cpu temps, neither adding the motherboard block change anything.

The only thing that reduced temperatures until now was to remove 3 sticks of ram and only have 1 in place. These dropped temps by about 13C across the cores.

I think the memory issue is completely unrelated. It wouldn't make any sense for the coolant temperature to drop simply because you're running less memory. The issue has to either do with contact between one or more of your blocks, or the issue has be related to your flow rate. It could even be a combination of both. Either way, I really don't think the issue has anything to do with how much memory you're running.
Edited by BramSLI1 - 11/18/13 at 3:25pm
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Is it possible the ram is causing local warming of the cpu area without greatly affecting water temperature in the loop?
I never noticed the difference in water temperature when adding additional rads or fans.
I am considering buying another cpu and trying it to see if the problem persists, if not, return it or sell it.

I do tighten the H220 cpu block until I can't turn any of the 4 screws anymore. I also do a slight turn of each screw at a time in a diagonal fashion. Maybe I should try re-orienting the cpu block 90 degree and 180 degrees again.
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