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Blademasters are noisier than my Gelid Silent 12 pwm's but they are definitely strong...price/perf the Gelids are better imho.
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It would be really nice if Swiftech would supply us with rebuild kits for these pumps. I think that would be awesome because when these loops go out of warranty it at least gives us the option to rebuild them if/when they fail.

If mine goes out, I would rather have Bram send me out another pump or a rebuild kit for my current pump. With the appropriate parts, I can rebuild my pump in a matter of minutes if needed. Hint, hint Gabe. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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So basically, I'm looking for recommendations on a low profile 120.2 rad and fans to add to the loop, and if anyone can, help point me in the direction of what size/type fittings I will need to do this, as I plan to just order everything at once instead of waiting on the kit to figure out what I need.

Thanks much in advance for anyone who can help me out.

When it comes to Rad Thickness, I think the slimmest retail radiator is:

25mm: Black Ice Pro II, I dont think any other retail radiator that's still on sale reaches something this thin
29-30: Magicool Extreme Dual Slim Profile, Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Slim
34-36: XSPC EX240, Swiftech MCR220-QP

are just some typical examples
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post #7834 of 20767
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Thanks for the reply. My PSU shouldn't be in the in the way, I measured everything last night, in fact that looks just like my PSU in the pic you posted (I have a Seasonic X850). I did realize the thicker the rad the better but I guess I just never thought about going that large, that's the first pic I've seen of one that size in the 690 II. I only have one graphics card now (R9-280x) but would like to add another soon, so I'll put mine in the bottom slot just so I can measure and see what size I can cram in there. I also like the idea of getting the lower FPI rad, so now I guess I have to go search through fans for another couple hours... any suggestions for that? Or will the CM Blademasters be just fine? Just trying to find the best balance of speed / sound / static pressure and from the specs they seem pretty good.

As you know there are many, many fans out there. Quite a few of them get the job done just fine. So here is just a list of common rad fans in no particular order.

Swiftech Helix, Corsair SP's, Cougar Vortex, Scythe/servo-nidec Gentle Typhoon AP-15, Noctua NF-F12, Noiseblockers, and many more... If you want to go cheap as possible then Yate Loons are an option. Check out Jab-tech.
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post #7835 of 20767
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Please go back and read my post. I already gave you the solution to quiet down your pump. What part did you not understand, maybe I can help?
"3 pin = fan controller
pwm = motherboard
molex = make a male molex to male 3 pin and hook it up to a fan controller
sata = make a male sata to male 3 pin and hook it up to a fan controller

there's always a way..."

You can control the rpm of any watercooling pump using the above solutions

As for the other info you requested,
H220 pump:
min speed: 1500rpm
max speed: 3000rpm
extremely quiet
difference between 20% (1500 rpm) and 100% (3000 rpm) is 2c at max load. At 1500 rpm it's inaudible unless I put my ear physically next to it. At 3000rpm I can hear it, but it's not loud. At 2000 RPM my low speed fans drown out the pump sound
I have looked that up, and from what i've found it appears it's not really recommended to do any voltage adjustment to the pump. One person's stopped working at a lower voltage and now only starts at full voltage.

Saying that, i think it would be more than quiet enough if i could get it to run at half speed.

There's less noise in the H220 pumps due to being mounted on the waterblock, same with the Apogee Drive II.. plus they're speed adjustable. I see for lowest possible pump noise i'd have to go completely custom and have a pump that's not attached to the case. But i much prefer a 2/3 component simple loop, having the radiator close to the cpu for 2 way and potentially a gpu for 3 way, going fully custom would mean i'd have a reservoir stuck near the drive bays. For me then i think it gets a bit too much with the clutter and access to stuff in the case, i like the simplicity of these (limited) options.

But then replacing my stuff with a H220/320 would bring upgrade issues because the pump is built into the block, so no chance of replacing for a better block. I would run into the same problem with the Apogee Drive II pump as well, and i would have to get swiftech rads since they are the only ones that have built in reservoirs. rolleyes.gif If i could hear how quiet the pumps are on low/medium settings i'd know for sure.

Out of curiosity though, does anyone know how close to a complete custom loop the H220/320's are if using same fans etc? I guess the biggest benefit for these would be adding in the GPU to the loop to reduce noise further.

Is a pump @ lowest speed going to affect cpu & gpu temps as little as if just the cpu alone was cooled?
Edited by Perfect_Chaos - 11/20/13 at 6:30pm
post #7836 of 20767
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lol, might be a tad hard doing that over the internet.

Not so. I'm Polish who live in Japan, Bram is in California. We made appointment and let's go. Not so difficult on the end.
post #7837 of 20767
I might as well join! biggrin.gif oh... and if BranSLI reads this then, I figured it out in the end got got a new H220 by the website I bought it from, but thanks for your help anyway thumb.gif
Edited by abgersaurus - 11/21/13 at 9:52am
post #7838 of 20767
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I might as well join! biggrin.gif oh... and if BranSLI reads this then, I figured it out in the end got got a new H220 by the website I bought it from, but thanks for your help anyway thumb.gif

Glad to hear it and the rig looks great! thumb.gif
post #7839 of 20767
thanks! biggrin.gif
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I am curious about the general consensus in this thread about TIM usage with the h220/glacer among owners. What did you guys use? The line (as shown in the included instructions)? Or the bb sized (4-5mm) as is generally recommended for many other heatsinks?

Reason I ask is because I was planning on using the bb-sized TIM application when I build my system in a few weeks.

Thanks for any input on this matter, just trying to gauge application method and subsequent temperatures obtained with your CPU.
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