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Haven't been paying much attention to CES. Anybody know what day it starts or more importantly what day Swiftech will be showing things off?

It started today and I think we'll be showing our new products off either tomorrow or Wednesday. I think that's what the schedule said anyway.
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I'm a big fan of Tek Syndicate and I have already seen that video.
While I always use the pea method for the CPU heat spreader, I wasn't sure if it was appropriate for placing TIM directly on the silicone.
I did do some research into what other people used and even removed the waterblock after the first application to check the contact area.
The GPU temps look good so I think i'll stick with this method.
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It started today and I think we'll be showing our new products off either tomorrow or Wednesday. I think that's what the schedule said anyway.

Ohh I can't wait, hope its tomorrow I have been checking feeds and Facebook periodically today lol
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It started today and I think we'll be showing our new products off either tomorrow or Wednesday. I think that's what the schedule said anyway.

Happy 2014 to all Folks. Bryan, if after tomorrow any web material show up on the new products can you kindly point that out here to us?
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I received my Glacer yesterday, and it seems I'm a victim of pump noise... and, it appears, an under-filled rad.

I took it out of the package, and, before I installed it in my new build, decided I'd give it a test run using an old PSU. The pump immediately started making a very audible high pitched whine... I assume it was due to it running full speed (?). The noise only goes away if I place my hand on the top of the CM logo plate on the pump/block, which shows it's a resonance issue… but where the vibration comes from, and if it'll go away when installed is another question.

Thinking it might be bubbles, I held the rad above the pump and went through the steps recommended in this thread to try to get the air worked through the system (tilting, gentle shaking with pump running).

While doing this, I heard a sound like water going down a drain that traveled from the rad down to the pump, which then started sounding like it was in a fish tank (with very clear gurgling noises coming from the pump/block)... on top of that, I could also hear liquid sloshing around in the rad as I moved it.

Starting to get pissed off, I combed through the forums some more, and tried removing the fill cap to get the air bubbles out. With the fill cap off, I could see the liquid level fluctuating in extremes depending on how the radiator was tilted... from a surface tension bead that bulged out of the fill port, to the level going a good distance below the fill port cap threading in the reservoir.

I fiddled with it for a few hours, tilting it this way and that, and the damn thing still obviously has bubbles in it.

So, I'd like some clarifications:

1) Does the pump, when attached to a PSU on a bench, run full speed?
If so, should there be a high pitched whine at full speed that can be heard in the next room? This is no exaggeration.. I have it running now in a sound-proofed studio recording space, and can hear the whining in the next room, even over the noise of my mini-split heater.

2) Is it normal for there to be sloshing noises in the rad new out of box, and such a range of apparent liquid volume in the reservoir?

3) I'm somewhat resigned to the fact that I'm going to likely have to flush the system and refill... which sucks given this is an AIO (yes, I know it's semi DIY, but this is for a work computer, and I'm losing money with it sitting idle).
If I decide to do this and not return the product, am I going to have to use anything special for a liquid, or will simple distilled water be OK?

Thanks for any advice, and for the time taken. I'm starting to wonder if I got a defective unit, especially since it was under-filled at factory...
Edited by JohnReid - 1/7/14 at 6:35am
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I received my Glacer yesterday, and it seems I'm a victim of pump noise... and, it appears, an under-filled rad.

I took it out of the package, and, before I installed it in my new build, decided I'd give it a test run using an old PSU. The pump immediately started making a very audible high pitched whine... I assume it was due to it running full speed (?). The noise only goes away if I place my hand on the top of the CM logo plate on the pump/block, which shows it's a resonance issue… but where the vibration comes from, and if it'll go away when installed is another question.

Thinking it might be bubbles, I held the rad above the pump and went through the steps recommended in this thread to try to get the air worked through the system (tilting, gentle shaking with pump running).

While doing this, I heard a sound like water going down a drain that traveled from the rad down to the pump, which then started sounding like it was in a fish tank (with very clear gurgling noises coming from the pump/block)... on top of that, I could also hear liquid sloshing around in the rad as I moved it.

Starting to get pissed off, I combed through the forums some more, and tried removing the fill cap to get the air bubbles out. With the fill cap off, I could see the liquid level fluctuating in extremes depending on how the radiator was tilted... from a surface tension bead that bulged out of the fill port, to the level going a good distance below the fill port cap threading in the reservoir.

I fiddled with it for a few hours, tilting it this way and that, and the damn thing still obviously has bubbles in it.

So, I'd like some clarifications:

1) Does the pump, when attached to a PSU on a bench, run full speed?
If so, should there be a high pitched whine at full speed that can be heard in the next room? This is no exaggeration.. I have it running now in a sound-proofed studio recording space, and can hear the whining in the next room, even over the noise of my mini-split heater.

2) Is it normal for there to be sloshing noises in the rad new out of box, and such a range of apparent liquid volume in the reservoir?

3) I'm somewhat resigned to the fact that I'm going to likely have to flush the system and refill... which sucks given this is an AIO (yes, I know it's semi DIY, but this is for a work computer, and I'm losing money with it sitting idle).
If I decide to do this and not return the product, am I going to have to use anything special for a liquid, or will simple distilled water be OK?

Thanks for any advice, and for the time taken. I'm starting to wonder if I got a defective unit, especially since it was under-filled at factory...

Yes, the motor does run full speed when hit wired to an external PSU, as the only way to slow it down properly is PWM modulation. It's unfortunate that you're having problems. TBH if you're in the states, it could likely be chalked up to a cold unit. In the inclement conditions we've been having, Swiftech records leaving the unit at room temperature for at least 24 hrs before running, though there's no way to add that recommendation to retail units. The weather likely played a part in the low fill and noise pitch as well, although the Glacer 240L is a little bit louder than the H220 because of it's extra RPMs. I would let it sit a little while in case there is any ice still in it, then try the air-purging directions in the OP, but with the pump hooked to the mobo so you can turn the pump speed to 50% or less and see if the noise is more satisfactory then, since no more than that is needed for optimal performance as an AIO.
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Thanks for the reply, Phelan...

I'm in CT, so we dodged most of the greif that others on the East Coast and central states are dealing with. Still cold as a mothertrucker, but not like it is in Chicago. Eesh. biggrin.gif

The retail box was in my heated office for around 5 hours before I opened it, and the rad didn't feel cold to the touch when I took it out of the box, but who the hell knows if there were some ice crystals lurking in there.

I've been letting it run off the old PSU since I wrote my first post, and recently tilted the rad, and again got the water down the drain noise... should I just turn it off until I can get it hooked up to my mobo as you suggest?

By the way, I removed the plastic CM logo cap from the pump/block and the whining noise went away... now I just hear the gurgling. I think I'm going to have to apply some mass-loading material to it to give it some more weight. Lucky I have tons of the stuff from a recent competition car audio build!

Thanks again for your help...
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Originally Posted by Gabrielzm View Post

Happy 2014 to all Folks. Bryan, if after tomorrow any web material show up on the new products can you kindly point that out here to us?

I'll do my best. I'm pretty busy here at the moment, but I'll do my best to post links to the info being put out on the new products.
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I'll do my best. I'm pretty busy here at the moment, but I'll do my best to post links to the info being put out on the new products.
Better include the H220X smile.gif. I really excited to see how it looks.
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Better include the H220X smile.gif. I really excited to see how it looks.

One of the improvements that I really like about it is the see-through reservoir so you can actually see the fluid level without removing your fill-port cap. The improved CPU block is a nice touch too, and the ability to use any G 1/4 fittings. Actually, I guess there are several improvements that I like about this new kit.
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