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One question for Stephen and Bram, can you do a PUSH/PULL config on the H220X?
It is not needed and the temp difference is 1c at most.
    
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^^ he is their engineer iirc

although i do disagree in one regard thick rads imo they do help ( 60+mm )
Don't get me wrong, adding a second set of fan (the same models) will always help, more or less depending on the radiator and the fans specs.

I am just stating that:

assuming 1800 RPM fans pushing on a radiator. You have the choice of either:
* adding another set of the same 1800 RPM fans on the other side as pull
* replacing the 1800 RPM fans by a set of stronger 2000 RPM fans

the result in performance and noise will be very similar at almost every fan speed. So unless, one's got the space to fit fans on each side of a rad, going with one just one set is usually the way to go.

Personally, if I had the space I would always go with 38's - practically I don't but that's because there is such a small pool of 120x38 fans to choose from...
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i really need to get off my bum and try them !
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The H220X looks pretty big... anyone have an idea if it should fit in a Corsair 750D? My friend's doing a build with the 750D and is looking for a nice CPU cooler.
 
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The H220X looks pretty big... anyone have an idea if it should fit in a Corsair 750D? My friend's doing a build with the 750D and is looking for a nice CPU cooler.

It is about 2" shorter than the radiator in the H220. It is also ~ 1" shorter than any 2x120mm radiator used in custom loops.
One of the 4 four corners of the radiators is thicker because of the pump/reservoir, but that is in an area where there is nothing to interfere: it clears the optical drives, clears the memory sticks, etc.

Just because of its shorter length, the H220X will fit in cases where the H220 wouldn't and not having the L shape reservoir on one hand gives more freedom in the installation to the case. (i.e. in case with large plastic tops [see the pics of the kit install in the CM Cosmos SE] you can now have the radiator inside and the fans outside [but still under the large plastic top of course]).

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remember the pump goes away from your mobo on the ram side
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The H220X looks pretty big... anyone have an idea if it should fit in a Corsair 750D? My friend's doing a build with the 750D and is looking for a nice CPU cooler.

how i see the kit, theres a few things that it changes compared to the earlier h220.

1) I believe the block uses normal g1/4 ports(unless im looking at it wrong) and its no longer on the side no more but on the top, so ram clearance and mobo vrm clearance problem is eliminated
2) the new radiator design has some intuitive changes to it at the cost of other changes. with the new radiator design, there no longer needs to have an extended radiator for the reservoir, so the length of the rad is smaller, thus giving more compatibility with cases. the new reservoir pump area is offset on the actual radiator by an inch and then some. this was probably designed this way so that ram clearance would be possible, and the only real way to have incompatibilities with ram is if your ram sticks had the most ridiculous height to them.

the radiator thickness should be not much big difference compared to your typical WC radiators(its possible the same size as the h220, which is only a few larger than a corsair h100(?))

so with the new kit, the main changes are probably
1)stronger pump
2) better cpu clearance, no longer blocks left most dimm slot nor vrm heatsinks(especially you upper end asus mobo users)
3) Reservoir redesign, Pump no longer in CPU block but as a seperate unit connected to the rad/res

at the cost of

1) cannot push pull on one side of the radiator, but the gains are minimal for P/P since the unit itself has a low FPI count

in the end, If the 750D can fit an h100(im pretty sure corsair would have their own cooler as compatible right?) then this unit should technically fit unless ram height becomes a problem.
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The 750D is pretty large. As long as it's got mounting holes for 2x 120mm (which I can't tell from the pictures), there is no doubt the H220X will fit!
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how i see the kit, theres a few things that it changes compared to the earlier h220.

1) I believe the block uses normal g1/4 ports(unless im looking at it wrong) and its no longer on the side no more but on the top, so ram clearance and mobo vrm clearance problem is eliminated
2) the new radiator design has some intuitive changes to it at the cost of other changes. with the new radiator design, there no longer needs to have an extended radiator for the reservoir, so the length of the rad is smaller, thus giving more compatibility with cases. the new reservoir pump area is offset on the actual radiator by an inch and then some. this was probably designed this way so that ram clearance would be possible, and the only real way to have incompatibilities with ram is if your ram sticks had the most ridiculous height to them.

the radiator thickness should be not much big difference compared to your typical WC radiators(its possible the same size as the h220, which is only a few larger than a corsair h100(?))

so with the new kit, the main changes are probably
1)stronger pump
2) better cpu clearance, no longer blocks left most dimm slot nor vrm heatsinks(especially you upper end asus mobo users)
3) Reservoir redesign, Pump no longer in CPU block but as a seperate unit connected to the rad/res

at the cost of

1) cannot push pull on one side of the radiator, but the gains are minimal for P/P since the unit itself has a low FPI count

in the end, If the 750D can fit an h100(im pretty sure corsair would have their own cooler as compatible right?) then this unit should technically fit unless ram height becomes a problem.

right on for pretty much all of your points:
1. we are releasing the MCP50X, however the pump in the H220X is still going to be a 3,000 RPM pump for optimized acoustics (i.e. the gain in performance from going to 3,000 to 4,500 RPM is too small to justify the noise difference - for those of you familiar with the MCP35X, the MCP50X is about the same noise level)
2. yes, better CPU clearances - the foot print of the Apogee XL is smaller than that of APD2/H220
3. yes. push/pull only possible on 1 side - see my comments on this for more info/recommendations.

edit: the radiator is thinner than most radiators for custom loops. Another reason to ignore push/pull on H220/H220X is that one side (the side where the fans are not attached - out of the box) of the radiator's got its 6mm shroud removed to keep it as thin as possible and minimize thickness issues.
Edited by stephenm - 1/8/14 at 8:47pm
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Nice! I must have some sickness...gotta have that new pump in my collection. I also can't stand not seeing the inner workings of the new block and 220x kit.

Also want to say kudos on the 220x, I really like where this has gone over the V1 h220. Going to the more conventional reservoir and res mounted pump should really make all the bleeding/filling noise related issues go away. It does limit the fan orientation options a little bit, but that should be well worth the improved pump/bleeding performance. I also prefer the standalone block and G1/4 fittings. I can't quite see how the 220x pump and res mounts but having the two integrated is a sure win on resolving air/bleeding issues. I like it!

Looking really good. If you need a pump test/review, I'd be up for coming out of testing retirement for a bit...smile.gif Available by PM..wink.gif

My only worry is can production keep up with demand...smile.gif
Great work!
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