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Originally Posted by BramSLI1 View Post

For the most part this is true. Most cases are not completely sealed units and therefore there are lots of ways for heat to escape. I have my own top and back radiators set to exhaust and my temperatures never get above 45 Celsius. My ambient is also usually around 25 to 27 Celsius. I have two 140mm fans intaking air in the front and my bottom radiator is also set up as an intake.

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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

this, although in stagnate air heat does rise, but unless you are running a 100% passive system, or just have poor airflow, this is just not true in pc cases, heat DOES NOT RISE it goes where the fans push it !!


Well a comp. case is small and the airflow is easier controll...however in my experience it is not as insignificant as you guys are trying to point out. But thats just my opinion, everyone is entitled to their on.

However you are missing the real consern/question i asked, wich is.
Since my inital thought was to cofigure so that fans are pushing air thru the rad in the front/bottom from outside in to the case, will it be dumping alot of heat in to the case...even thou it is second rad in line ? Will there be heat enough in the water for the rad to dump inside the case, being the second rad inline ?

Giving it some more time, I think I´ll go with cephelix idea to mint in the front/bottom of the case like in the picture he showed me a few pages back.
Edited by mrazster - 3/22/14 at 8:46am
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Has anyone been able to run their H220 on the test bench or outside of the case? I am concerned about it falling over and wondered how you would secure it? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Allygash View Post

Ok guys question?

On my second H320 now(gave up on H220, RMA sitting in corner). Just restarted PC to install PCIE intel nic and zero RPM on H320 pump...... zzzzz This is the new RMA H320, now I tried removing splitter connecting to cpu fan header directly blah blah usual BS u have to do to test if its a power problem etc.. So I gave up and whacked the pump with my heavy screwdriver and guess what.... it now works 3000rpm as advertised, great temps etc etc. Now to the question.. do i keep it in there and wait n see or just be done with swiftech and go to something like a corsair h100i or h110(have one in my old system).

Thoughts gents?


Sigh Great kit poor QC (three units 1 h220 n 2 h320's all pump issues, coincidence?)
... still gonna say no i find it funny that
1 gabe has said rma is ~ 3%
2 all the people who have had problems, seem to have multiple problems
#2 tends to point toward user issues
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Originally Posted by BramSLI1 View Post

For the most part this is true. Most cases are not completely sealed units and therefore there are lots of ways for heat to escape. I have my own top and back radiators set to exhaust and my temperatures never get above 45 Celsius. My ambient is also usually around 25 to 27 Celsius. I have two 140mm fans intaking air in the front and my bottom radiator is also set up as an intake.

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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

this, although in stagnate air heat does rise, but unless you are running a 100% passive system, or just have poor airflow, this is just not true in pc cases, heat DOES NOT RISE it goes where the fans push it !!


Well a comp. case is small and the airflow is easier controll...however in my experience it is not as insignificant as you guys are trying to point out. But thats just my opinion, everyone is entitled to their on.

However you are missing the real consern/question i asked, wich is.
Since my inital thought was to cofigure so that fans are pushing air thru the rad in the front/bottom from outside in to the case, will it be dumping alot of heat in to the case...even thou it is second rad in line ? Will there be heat enough in the water for the rad to dump inside the case, being the second rad inline ?

Giving it some more time, I think I´ll go with cephelix idea to mint in the front/bottom of the case like in the picture he showed me a few pages back.
if your case airflow is poor, it will rise, if it has time to rise in a pc case, you need to upgrade your case fans with better higher static pressure

it will dump the heat into the case, you need to play with airflow to see what works best in your case, i have seen methods where one way works great for one, and a different way works great in a near identical pc


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Originally Posted by hornedfrog86 View Post

Has anyone been able to run their H220 on the test bench or outside of the case? I am concerned about it falling over and wondered how you would secure it? Thanks.

not alot of vibration so they dont bounce around alot
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

if your case airflow is poor, it will rise, if it has time to rise in a pc case, you need to upgrade your case fans with better higher static pressure

it will dump the heat into the case, you need to play with airflow to see what works best in your case, i have seen methods where one way works great for one, and a different way works great in a near identical pc
not alot of vibration so they dont bounce around alot

Yeah I have to also agree with Mega Man regarding air flow, if the air has time to rise, you need more air flow. The fans should be dictating the flow, plus the more air flow the more efficient all the heat sinks and radiators become to a certain point.

Usually each case I get I try at least 2-3 fan orientations before I figure out which cools best. For average users that may not be necessary but I always like to get AS MUCH of an overclock I can with my hardware so the cooler the better.
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Well a comp. case is small and the airflow is easier controll...however in my experience it is not as insignificant as you guys are trying to point out. But thats just my opinion, everyone is entitled to their on.

However you are missing the real consern/question i asked, wich is.
Since my inital thought was to cofigure so that fans are pushing air thru the rad in the front/bottom from outside in to the case, will it be dumping alot of heat in to the case...even thou it is second rad in line ? Will there be heat enough in the water for the rad to dump inside the case, being the second rad inline ?

Giving it some more time, I think I´ll go with cephelix idea to mint in the front/bottom of the case like in the picture he showed me a few pages back.

Can you have it set up to exhaust? WHich case did you have again? Were you doing gpu and cpu?
Edited by 66racer - 3/22/14 at 9:05am
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I hope to get it going on a test bench first. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

... still gonna say no i find it funny that
1 gabe has said rma is ~ 3%
2 all the people who have had problems, seem to have multiple problems
#2 tends to point toward user issues
if your case airflow is poor, it will rise, if it has time to rise in a pc case, you need to upgrade your case fans with better higher static pressure

1 can say what he wants just type in google h220/320 pump issues..... zzzzz
2 user issues in an AIO product? Custom loop yep AIO nope, thats the idea its just meant to work. Great idea the splitter but power issues shoulda be spec'd in from the early H220's, the pumps should just work with any quality mobo headers. Most AIO users buy them for ease of use not to mess around for hours trying to figure out why the pump doesnt work, fortunately i took the time to try everything possible, including in this case giving it a whack.

But the question was 'Take the risk and keep the h320 in there or just be done with it and buy a different AIO'?

Edited by Allygash - 3/22/14 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by cephelix View Post

Same here, Singapore is hot. Just unsure if the card can take the whole weight of the pump over time.
Would the pcb bend over time?
I personally would just expand the loop,adding more rads(eyeing the alphacool st30).
But that's just me.

Also from what i read, and do correct me if i'm wrong here, but most closed loop coolers have aluminium rads,hence the limited cooling capability when compared to full copper rads.
Just switched from a gtx 570 to a r9 290 so I really have no experience about ati cards though.

As what Bram said, if you could install a dual 120mm rad, that should be enough to cool card and cpu.
General rule of thumb, from what I've read here is 120mm of rad per component with a 120mm extra just to be safe

Oh wow can the H220 Pump really take that pressure ? from two rads ? if so then it was a way better purchase then I thought !
Gonna order a Nice 240mm Rad for the top of my Case and a Waterblock for the CPU !
Thanks Guys !!!!
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Oh wow can the H220 Pump really take that pressure ? from two rads ? if so then it was a way better purchase then I thought !
Gonna order a Nice 240mm Rad for the top of my Case and a Waterblock for the CPU !
Thanks Guys !!!!
It can.youtube on how to expand the loop so u dont damage the parts.
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Oh wow can the H220 Pump really take that pressure ? from two rads ? if so then it was a way better purchase then I thought !
Gonna order a Nice 240mm Rad for the top of my Case and a Waterblock for the CPU !
Thanks Guys !!!!

First time watercooler: running a 7970, micro res and 280mm on my h220 for 1 week.
looking for a waterblock for my 2nd 7970
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Can you have it set up to exhaust? WHich case did you have again? Were you doing gpu and cpu?


Yeah I was thinking something like this :




My plan is to later remove the Accelero Hybrid and include the VGA in the loop, then mount another Nexus 120mm as intake.

Now, I know this is not the most optimal airflow...but I think it will be sufficient enough !
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