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Hello dear friends.

Recently I have switch from ATI to NVIDIA and I wish to share my thoudhts/impressions with all You.

My first "new generation" ATI card was a Sapphire 5770 Vapor-X - My second was a MSI Twin frozr III 6950 - My third was a Sapphire 7950 Vapor-X OC Boost - my first NVIDIA card is a MSI 660 Ti PE/OC - and finally my last NVIDIA card is a Gigabyte 670 Windforce3x OC.

  • I can say that the best bang for the buck is the 5770 (150$ in 2010). Nowadays I can still play all games in a decent quality @ 1080p.
  • The worst was the 6950 because I thought it could mutate to a 6970 but no, and there was not much difference (comparing on the performance of the 5770).
  • The 7950 is good, can play all in ultra quality but had problems with the bios (vapor-x models) and the drivers.
  • The 660 Ti/670 are plug&oc&play, I expected less performance from 660 Ti but was very close to the 7950. (I never play with more than 2xMSAA)


My veredict is:

660 Ti @ max oc VS 7950 @ max oc are very close in performance. 7950 wins by a couple of frames.

ATI has much more "bang for the buck" but I like so much the Physx and the easy of plug & oc & play of the NVIDIA cards.

The BEST CARD EVER is the 5770.


For me NVIDIA wins by a small margin.
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But how can you say you notice a small difference between hd5770 and hd6950,

maybe at the time you were suffering from a BIG cpu bottleneck,

When my hd6950 died, i bought a hd5770 as temporary replacement, and i had to tune Graphic Settings from Ultra to Medium....

And we should be happy there are 2 ''manufacturers'' of graphic cards, if there was only one,
the prices would be 2 times as high thumb.gif
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oc 660ti vs oc 7950 very close? really?
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Originally Posted by prescotter View Post

But how can you say you notice a small difference between hd5770 and hd6950,

maybe at the time you were suffering from a BIG cpu bottleneck,

When my hd6950 died, i bought a hd5770 as temporary replacement, and i had to tune Graphic Settings from Ultra to Medium....

And we should be happy there are 2 ''manufacturers'' of graphic cards, if there was only one,
the prices would be 2 times as high thumb.gif

Maybe You are right with the bottleneck or a driver issue. But my expectation in that moment was like "this card will be 14863 times better than my old 5770" and in fact it is actually BETTER but not as much as I expected.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raptorpowa View Post

oc 660ti vs oc 7950 very close? really?

MAX STABLE OC I COULD GIVE TO 660 Ti @ 1.264MHz/1.752MHz - Avg. FPS on most games @ 1080p/ULTRA quality (2xMSAA) ~ 36 FPS

MAX STABLE OC I COULD GIVE TO 7950 @ 1.025MHz/1.420MHZ - Avg. FPS on most games @ 1080p/ULTRA quality (2xMSAA) ~ 41 FPS


Tested on same RIG of course. For me these results are small margin.
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Maybe You are right with the bottleneck or a driver issue. But my expectation in that moment was like "this card will be 14863 times better than my old 5770" and in fact it is actually BETTER but not as much as I expected.
MAX STABLE OC I COULD GIVE TO 660 Ti @ 1.264MHz/1.752MHz - Avg. FPS on most games @ 1080p/ULTRA quality (2xMSAA) ~ 36 FPS

MAX STABLE OC I COULD GIVE TO 7950 @ 1.025MHz/1.420MHZ - Avg. FPS on most games @ 1080p/ULTRA quality (2xMSAA) ~ 41 FPS


Tested on same RIG of course. For me these results are small margin.

5 fps really isn't a "small" margin. It can be the difference between playable and not.
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5 fps really isn't a "small" margin. It can be the difference between playable and not.

this.

thats exactly the problem. the 660ti has somehow failed. the normal 660 and 670 / 680 are overclocking
better.. and give OCed better fps/cost relations. still a 7950 iwell OCed is not beatable by a 660ti OC it how u want.
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Originally Posted by Carlitros View Post

Maybe You are right with the bottleneck or a driver issue. But my expectation in that moment was like "this card will be 14863 times better than my old 5770" and in fact it is actually BETTER but not as much as I expected.
MAX STABLE OC I COULD GIVE TO 660 Ti @ 1.264MHz/1.752MHz - Avg. FPS on most games @ 1080p/ULTRA quality (2xMSAA) ~ 36 FPS

MAX STABLE OC I COULD GIVE TO 7950 @ 1.025MHz/1.420MHZ - Avg. FPS on most games @ 1080p/ULTRA quality (2xMSAA) ~ 41 FPS


Tested on same RIG of course. For me these results are small margin.

41 fps vs 36 fps = 14% difference
not to mention that your OC of 1025MHz on the 7950 was terrible. Most will do 1150-1200 so another 10% perfomance boost.
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Originally Posted by glina View Post

41 fps vs 36 fps = 14% difference
not to mention that your OC of 1025MHz on the 7950 was terrible. Most will do 1150-1200 so another 10% perfomance boost.

Oh boy , 'ere we go again biggrin.gif He is just sharing his opinion he is not making an AMD vs Nvidia thread thumb.gif
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Yea he seemed to get extremely unlucky with his 7950, not a big deal. According to HIS experience, Nvidia was slightly better.
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i will always pay more for the nvidia counterpart due to my personal experiences with the two, especially the drivers.. even more especially the drivers in linux.

Getting radeon cards to work in linux outside of noobuntu has always been multiple hour/day ordeals while nvidia has always been download, run, done.

Just my opinions, don't waste your time arguing an opinion, it only makes you look foolish.
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