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As a point EA clearly states that they cannot be held responsible for the up time of their servers. They say they'll make their best effort to provide the service but make no guarantee. It is the fault of all of us that we no longer read any kind of EULA. The current problems are clearly covered within their EULA no matter how wrong we think that might be.

Banks and credit card companies are issuing charge backs.

So why don't you try and tell those banks and CC companies their legal department is wrong; you know, the ones authorizing the charge backs.

Consumer law > EULA
Edited by Cheezman - 3/8/13 at 10:34am
 
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Did you quote the wrong person or did you just literally misunderstand everything that he said?
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Did you quote the wrong person or did you just literally misunderstand everything that he said?

Did you read the first paragraph of his post? I was replying to that. Not him directly.

Your blatant attempts at discrediting me, and the situation at hand are getting old.

But I'll fix my post for you, since you want to cry about it.
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Ridiculous? Have you played it?

It's really not anywhere near as bad as people make it seem.



I've said it and will say it again: SC4 was as easy as building a gigantic mass of zoned areas to generate insane profit. SC5 will turn you bankrupt if you do so. Ever seen a city/town establish in real life? The purpose of the smaller cities is so that you don't have one single perfect city that composes of everything. The intent is to have you collaborating with neighbors (whether it is public players, friends, or even your own other cities), where each city has its own specializations and industries that compliment neighboring cities.
That is a very deceptive picture tough. While i don't own it myself i have seen lots of actual gameplay of it where it looks way smaller, espcially considering the amount of space everything is.
There are lots of reports where it takes an hour, maybe 2 to full in the whole piece of land you get.
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Did you read the first paragraph of his post? I was replying to that. Not him directly.

Your blatant attempts at discrediting me
, and the situation at hand are getting old.

But I'll fix my post for you, since you want to cry about it.

I laughed at your ironic joke.

The point is that their EULA and their non guarantee of service (which is built into 99% of online centric service EULAs) has nothing to do with them trying to hinder chargebacks.

In the same breath, getting chargebacks doesn't hinder them from suspending accounts.
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Ridiculous? Have you played it?

It's really not anywhere near as bad as people make it seem.
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I've said it and will say it again: SC4 was as easy as building a gigantic mass of zoned areas to generate insane profit. SC5 will turn you bankrupt if you do so. Ever seen a city/town establish in real life? The purpose of the smaller cities is so that you don't have one single perfect city that composes of everything. The intent is to have you collaborating with neighbors (whether it is public players, friends, or even your own other cities), where each city has its own specializations and industries that compliment neighboring cities.
Wow, that's as large as the smallest lot size in Sim City 4.

Also, Sim City 4 was not easy. You had to deal with budgeting education, health, public safety into your city, while making sure that the traffic infrastructure was good enough. Getting a city that creates a ton of money isn't good enough; you need a city that is actually livable.

The idea of building a massive city was what really made me like Sim City 4. I can finish one of the medium sized regions in a few hours, but the massive ones take months to work on, and it takes a lot more skill to do it properly than with the small ones. Hopefully that Kickstarter Sim City-like game will actually be what I imagined Sim City 5 would be.
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Hopefully that Kickstarter Sim City-like game will actually be what I imagined Sim City 5 would be.

What? What? Come again?

Do share.
 
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Wow, that's as large as the smallest lot size in Sim City 4.

Also, Sim City 4 was not easy. You had to deal with budgeting education, health, public safety into your city, while making sure that the traffic infrastructure was good enough. Getting a city that creates a ton of money isn't good enough; you need a city that is actually livable.

The idea of building a massive city was what really made me like Sim City 4. I can finish one of the medium sized regions in a few hours, but the massive ones take months to work on, and it takes a lot more skill to do it properly than with the small ones. Hopefully that Kickstarter Sim City-like game will actually be what I imagined Sim City 5 would be.

There was no "win" situation or "way to play" in any SimCity game, you just make the city you want to make and go about doing it in a way that doesn't bankrupt you.

SimCity 4 is much easier imo, but it was also a fundamentally different approach to the game regarding the actual mechanics.
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Also, Sim City 4 was not easy. You had to deal with budgeting education, health, public safety into your city, while making sure that the traffic infrastructure was good enough. Getting a city that creates a ton of money isn't good enough; you need a city that is actually livable.

The idea of building a massive city was what really made me like Sim City 4. I can finish one of the medium sized regions in a few hours, but the massive ones take months to work on, and it takes a lot more skill to do it properly than with the small ones. Hopefully that Kickstarter Sim City-like game will actually be what I imagined Sim City 5 would be.

Lol don't kid yourself... SC4 was ridiculously lenient when it came to health/education/crime/utility services. I picked up SC4 again maybe 2 months ago and let my city sit there without even any water for YEARS (in game time obviously), with no penalty/loss of residents. You did need good education if you wanted high tech industry to start up, but that's about it. The time cycle in SC5 is much more different now. At max speed you're only flying through minutes rather than days like in SC4. Your revenue and expenses are earned and withdrawn hourly, so each decision you make puts a greater impact on your cash flow than it did in SC4.
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Lol don't kid yourself... SC4 was ridiculously lenient when it came to health/education/crime/utility services. I picked up SC4 again maybe 2 months ago and let my city sit there without even any water for YEARS (in game time obviously), with no penalty/loss of residents. You did need good education if you wanted high tech industry to start up, but that's about it. The time cycle in SC5 is much more different now. At max speed you're only flying through minutes rather than days like in SC4. Your revenue and expenses are earned and withdrawn hourly, so each decision you make puts a greater impact on your cash flow than it did in SC4.

SC4 is probably a lot harder and realistic than SC5 as well, but I wouldn't know because I have never run a city or played SC5 before.

From what I have seen in videos, I would rather play SC4 over SC5. I might buy SC5 if the price drops below £25 and they sort the server issues out.
    
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