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Gamers have a short memory it seems... Disappointing attitude. Let EA get away with this and they'll get away with anything.
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They just didn't want to put in single player, as they felt there was little reason to have single player. .

This shows how out of touch EA is with gamers today. There is a growing movement in many games for more solo offline play and Sim City is a game that is traditionally a solo play game. Adding the social and online aspect is cool but to force a fan base to play the game that way when it was not needed is wrong. If they had actually known their fan base and what they wanted then a solo play version would have been done from the start. The fact they decided not to do it shows they are just plain out of touch.
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This is why I brought up the BS about the server calculations in the first place (they lied in my opinion, which screws consumer rights). It's the little things that we get screwed on, eventually leading to multiple little things turning into a large fiasco.

The end result? This, this muck of crap that we get sprayed our way because a company doesn't want to take the blame for the mistakes it makes. If they don't have to change anything, they will say and do whatever they can. What we get? Well, we get a ton of angry consumers to spat words around. Next time a blunder happens, it ends up another spitting contest.

Either those that got shafted, if you fell you got shafted, do something or we will sit here and take it again and again. I vote with my wallet, I don't buy games unless I know it's worth it. I support developers who show care for the community as well as talent. I don't hate EA either, as I said in another post I adore EA sports games. They make some of the best sports games out, they just don't do well in other categories. Many companies are like that, they have a niche that they do well in. Obviously EA doesn't understand this area of gaming and it shows.

As for always online or DRM, I don't care it is their decision. I just don't like the idea that they can lie about the reasons and people eat it up. Like little lap dogs, licking the spit off the ground from the company. if a company says they do something, a product requires something, or any information about the product and it ends up false. I think that's wrong, very wrong. More and more people are starting to listen to idea that EA probably lied about the servers. Which is unfair.
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This shows how out of touch EA is with gamers today. There is a growing movement in many games for more solo offline play and Sim City is a game that is traditionally a solo play game. Adding the social and online aspect is cool but to force a fan base to play the game that way when it was not needed is wrong. If they had actually known their fan base and what they wanted then a solo play version would have been done from the start. The fact they decided not to do it shows they are just plain out of touch.

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Just about all of the market research I've been privy to has said otherwise. As for the rest of your post, SimCity was not targeted at SimCity 4 fans as clearly evidenced by everything except the name. That game was 10 years old and the gaming market has changed significantly since, so they decided to try a "new age" SimCity. The game is good, not great, but it's definitely not a bad game.
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The kicker of the whole thing is that besides SimCity being a traditional solo game, they asked fans what they wanted to see in this game before and all the while it was in production, and every time the number one thing asked for was an offline mode, or a fully offline game.

And now that the game has been released, and they ignored us on that aspect, they are lying to us, and telling us it would take "a large amount of engineering" to make the game offline due to the calculations on the server side. This has been outed by a modder who has ran the game offline with no issues other than not being able to save.
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Sure there is. They just didn't want to put in single player, as they felt there was little reason to have single player. Kinda common sense. I can nearly ascertain that every gamer in the world with a PC powerful enough to play SC2013 has an Internet connection. It's pretty clear as the ones that complain about it requiring an Internet connection are... well... online complaining about it. lachen.gif It's not for you to decide what EA will put in their game. It's fine if you don't like it. Don't play the game and miss out on it. thumb.gif DRM has nothing to do with the game being always online. DRM is checked via your Origin login. A game could be entirely single player and you'd still have to login to Origin to verify its DRM.
What reason is there to have single player? How about a 30 minute wait times to play the game? How about getting your cloud data lost?

People with dodgy internet connections are going to be angry. The server kicks you out if you lose your connection for long enough.

DRM has everything to do with the game being always online. Origin has an offline mode that you can use. Origin DRM has probably already been broken, so this provides an additional layer of protection.

It is completely for us to decide what's in the game, that's how capitalism works. If the game doesn't work launch day and has a one star rating on Amazon, a lot of people are not going to buy the game.

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I think even if they had done a single player region they would of still ran into problems, simply because ppl would of wanted to test out the multiplayer part with friends, and then they would be on here complaining anyway even though they could play it solo, I'm afraid that's how ppl are
Well, you wouldn't have a 30 minute wait time to play it, having your city's data lost, and being kicked out of the game randomly.

There wouldn't be as many people complaining, then.
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What reason is there to have single player? How about a 30 minute wait times to play the game? How about getting your cloud data lost?

People with dodgy internet connections are going to be angry. The server kicks you out if you lose your connection for long enough.

DRM has everything to do with the game being always online. Origin has an offline mode that you can use. Origin DRM has probably already been broken, so this provides an additional layer of protection.

It is completely for us to decide what's in the game, that's how capitalism works. If the game doesn't work launch day and has a one star rating on Amazon, a lot of people are not going to buy the game.
Well, you wouldn't have a 30 minute wait time to play it, having your city's data lost, and being kicked out of the game randomly.

There wouldn't be as many people complaining, then.

I wouldn't bet on that it's EA after all
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What reason is there to have single player? How about a 30 minute wait times to play the game? How about getting your cloud data lost?

People with dodgy internet connections are going to be angry. The server kicks you out if you lose your connection for long enough.

DRM has everything to do with the game being always online. Origin has an offline mode that you can use. Origin DRM has probably already been broken, so this provides an additional layer of protection.

It is completely for us to decide what's in the game, that's how capitalism works. If the game doesn't work launch day and has a one star rating on Amazon, a lot of people are not going to buy the game.
Well, you wouldn't have a 30 minute wait time to play it, having your city's data lost, and being kicked out of the game randomly.

There wouldn't be as many people complaining, then.

http://press2reset.com/2011/11/02/hackers-crack-origin/

All I got to say, Orign being DRM is worthless. Just as worthless as Steam as DRM, Valve knows Steam is cracked too. Both Origin and Steam are just as good as SecuROM, how well did that end up? Heck, how good did any disc protection work? Just as good as Origin and Steam, for about just as long.

So yes, this was about DRM. it's much harder to get at an always online game, servers have to be emulated instead of simple code bits.
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http://press2reset.com/2011/11/02/hackers-crack-origin/

All I got to say, Orign being DRM is worthless. Just as worthless as Steam as DRM, Valve knows Steam is cracked too. Both Origin and Steam are just as good as SecuROM, how well did that end up? Heck, how good did any disc protection work? Just as good as Origin and Steam, for about just as long.

So yes, this was about DRM. it's much harder to get at an always online game, servers have to be emulated instead of simple code bits.


And that's what it comes down to will EA lose more sales through always-online compared to single and jolly roger copies, only EA will have that answer
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How big can the cities get? Has someone modeled a real world city before like NY?

It would be amazing if you could build terrain, build continents, mounts, islands and such.
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