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post #1 of 18
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Hi Guys

So im planning on my first water cooled build. In the past i built many computers, mostly loud, ugly and just for the use smile.gif Now i intend to build a clean, powerfull, silent (compared to his power wink.gif and nice computer. Sadly i haven't any experience in watercooling so I hope you can help me on this monster.

This are the planned parts:

CPU: Intel i7-3930k
MoBo: MSI Big Bang-XPower II
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP 4x4GB, DDR3-1600, CL7-8-8-24 (x2)
SSD: Samsung SSD 840 Pro Basic 128GB (x3 (RAID0))
Sleeving: MDPC
Fans: Enermax Cluster

Now the first decision(s):

GPU: Should i get 3x GTX670 4GB or 2x GTX TITAN? I know about the price difference and i know that the GTX670 (even two of them...) are sufficient but the TITAN got this "must have" - feeling. And i worry a little about the tri-sli and the scaling and other problems.. :/ But theirs again the "coolness" of a tri-sli biggrin.gif

Next Problem; PSU. Here a little bit more about my plans:

I don't know if its possible or not (I think it depends heavyly on the chip...?) i've got the goal to go 5GhZ with the CPU. Not 24/7, but thats the goal. Also i'd like to push the GTX670 (if I get them...) to the level of a GTX680. The Titans (if I get them... ) will stay untouched. I really like Corsair PSUs so I think i'll get a AX860i or a AX1200i. What do you think? Will the AX860i be enough or should i go with the AX1200i?

Now to the cool part... (haha, get it? - cool part ... )

I absolutely dont know how many radiators I need. I read something about 120mm per cooled part + 120mm for good Temps. So I'll have to get this?:

CPU: 120mm
MoBo (The coolers are so ugly, they have to go): 120mm
GPU: 2x 120mm (3x 120mm for the 670)
+ Good Temps: 120mm

Makes 720mmx120mm or 86400mm^2
Makes this sense? Do I need more?

Then, the pump. I dont know if one is enough or if I should get two? evtl. something like a MCP35X2?

Waterblocks should, of what I read, pretty much be the same of cooling power. So I'll just get, what fits my colorscheme (black/white).

Aaah and theres the case. But first I have to know how many radiators I need wink.gif But to be said: I don't like this spaceship-cases, im looking for a nice, sleek, simple case like (just a example) the Fractal Design Define XL R2.

Now, i'm sure I forgot many things and have many questions left. I'll be really happy if you all can help me a little to build this monster biggrin.gif Ah, & sorry for my bad English, I gave my best biggrin.gif

Greetings

beatfried
post #2 of 18
If Money is not an issue get the sli Titans they will perform better.

If you got with 670 tri sli you will probable want around 1000w (per newegg wattage calculator)

The MCP 35x will be fine by itself, I have one pushing a cpu block, gpu, and 3 rads and only run it at 40% speed.
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before thinking about the card i recommend finding a good Watercooling case, myself im going with a moutain mod ufo cyo, cause i can have 2 360mm radiators in front and one 240mm in rear, But ya if you plan on a titan, or tri 670's, what constant reso do you plan on running and how many monitors>? because thats the real dictation on of what ur water cooling needs are going to be, also will you be ocing your gpu or no, and whats your price range, will dictate the sizes of the radiators mainly.
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Originally Posted by MrNishi View Post

If Money is not an issue get the sli Titans they will perform better.


That and if you can get one, they are not exactly a common commodity right now.

Titan SLI, whit water? Are you ready to take someones life to get them? biggrin.gif
post #5 of 18
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Thank you all!

I think i'll go with the Titans... I just saw, that two 690 are the same price, but i dont think they perform as good... (except special situations..)

Na the case isn't that important, I'll just buy one which suits my needs... I'd just like to have it full. I don't like empty spaces in my cases, so if I have to use two 480 rads, I'll go with a Caselabs Magnum STH10 (but theirs already to much space between the mainboard and the drivebays wink.gif) and if I dont need this much rads I'll just go with a smaller case.

actually I've got two HP LA2405wg with 1920x1200. Later this year I'll buy 3x 30" with 2560x1600 (i dream of really fast non-glossy S-IPS Panels;))

Like I said in the previous post, if I go with the Titans i won't overclock them. If i go with the 670s I'll push them to the level of 680s. I can't give a pricerange, cause i'll pay what it costs wink.gif I don't want more coolingpower then I need, if I can get good temps with like I said, 720mm rads, I don't want to buy a rad more for 0.5 °C.

The Titans are in Stock in my local Computerstore, their are >10 in Stock wink.gif
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Send the Seals and Delta force!
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I had 690s and moved to Titans. 690s are better for games that don't require tons of vram and are properly coded to deal with 4 gpus. For me the Titans have been a smoother experience even with infant drivers. In the end a TItan build is going to cost another $1000 over a 670 build, but it's worth it.


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Originally Posted by Cidd View Post

That and if you can get one, they are not exactly a common commodity right now.

Titan SLI, whit water? Are you ready to take someones life to get them? biggrin.gif

They're pretty easy to get. Just have to sign up on nowinstock.net to get stock alerts.
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I love titans like everyone else but they are a HORRIBLE value especially when 3 7970's blow them out of the water for 800 dollars less. This is coming from someone who had 4 titans on preorder and decided to cancel and go with almost the same performance with quad 7970's and save myself 2500 bucks.

OP grab the 3930K but why get the big bang when you can get a Rampage IV? Also ditch the 1600 memory for some nice 2133.

Rampage IV

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131808

16GB of DDR3 2133 cas 9

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231518

Any questions ask or PM me. I just put together a quad watercooled 7970 rig
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a) You don't need more than 850W. This isn't the days of huge power consumption anymore.

b) Ask yourself: do you really *need* Titans? Unless you planning multi-monitor, SLI 670/680s is plenty of power. Having a hard time wording it, but basically you're paying a lot for a little bit of future proofing by buying the best of this generation of cards. Makes far more sense to buy the power you need *now*, and then upgrade to the next generation when it comes out. That's my plan....will move to SLI 780's when they come out, because my 680's do just fine with my monitor and 32xAA.

c) Rads I've heard ideally you want 240 for each component. You can probably get away with 120 if you do push/pull on the fans.
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