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Poll Results: MATRIX HD 7970 Platinum 3GB or GTX 680 DC2 4GB

 
  • 72% (18)
    ASUS ROG MATRIX 7970-P-3GD5
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    ASUS GTX 680 DC2-4GD5
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post #31 of 45
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Originally Posted by Justhavocman View Post

You keep posting benches of higher resolutions with 2GB 680's , apparently they are beaten by the 3GB 7970 due to their 2GB of memory , in the event of a 4GB 680 i believe the 7970 will get stomped
No... 4GB 680s barely perform better than their 2GB counterparts due to their memory interface limitations. The 7970 GHz edition is faster than both the 2GB and 4GB 680 overall, it's not up for debate.


Yeap. The 680 is NOT fast enough to take advantage of the 4gb vram. It's sort of ironic when you put it into context.
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Yeap. The 680 is NOT fast enough to take advantage of the 4gb vram. It's sort of ironic when you put it into context.

seems to me the real culprit is the 256 Bit Bus Width right?
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Looks like the fat lady to me.
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seems to me the real culprit is the 256 Bit Bus Width right?

Exactly
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As a current unhappy owner of a matrix, tsm is right gpu tweak reliance is a pita and the quality control issues on the Asus 7970's has been abysmal. Head over to the Rog Asus forums and look around to see how many people have issues with them that can't even run them at stock and have to underclock to get them stable. Others can't get inputs to work properly and I don't believe anyone had ever gotten 5 screens to actually work with one.

Weird artifacts also appear more often because of gpu tweak as I can attest since after I removed it my unstable OC's (or so I thought) became artifact free and I could push the card much farther till temps stopped me (1273 core). Gonna see what a dwood mod does for it see if I can actually utilize the 1.4v Asus had given me.

That said if the classified is out of your price range you're basically screwed. The lighting is the best 680 no questions asked (evbot equipped cards excluded since being discontinued) but only is a 2gb card, and that puts you at the same problem you had before.

I would say mitigate cost as much a possible and try to get a good voltage unlocked 7950 under $350ish to tide you over until next refresh end of year/early 2014. Then use saved cash to upgrade then.

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Edited by Junkboy - 3/6/13 at 2:02am
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post #36 of 45
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As a current unhappy owner of a matrix, tsm is right gpu tweak reliance is a pita and the quality control issues on the Asus 7970's has been abysmal. Head over to the Rog Asus forums and look around to see how many people have issues with them that can't even run them at stock and have to underclock to get them stable. Others can't get inputs to work properly and I don't believe anyone had ever gotten 5 screens to actually work with one.

Weird artifacts also appear more often because of gpu tweak as I can attest since after I removed it my unstable OC's (or so I thought) became artifact free and I could push the card much farther till temps stopped me (1273 core). Gonna see what a dwood mod does for it see if I can actually utilize the 1.4v Asus had given me.

That said if the classified is out of your price range you're basically screwed. The lighting is the best 680 no questions asked (evbot equipped cards excluded since being discontinued) but only is a 2gb card, and that puts you at the same problem you had before.

I would say mitigate cost as much a possible and try to get a good voltage unlocked 7950 under $350ish to tide you over until next refresh end of year/early 2014. Then use saved cash to upgrade then.

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Thank you for the detailed input appreciate that thumb.gif

The 'artifacts' seems to be the universal issue with 7970 GHz because 2 of my friends reported same issue one of them is using Club3d's Royal Ace and other an MSI's. The guy with Royal Ace 7970 was getting 80C - 84C at load so I guess that could be the reason? anyways I won't be needing to push the MATRIX anywhere beyond 1150 - 1200 because even at (1100) factory OC'd frequency it's already ahead of GTX 680 as shown in couple of benchmarks that I've checked. You got that right Mate my options are pretty limited so I guess MATRIX would be the one to pick given the above scenario right?

oh and I only got 1 Screen don't think will ever go multi, already running out of vision.... nerdsmiley.png
Edited by Taurus_G4 - 3/6/13 at 4:47am
post #37 of 45
All fanboyism aside get the 7970 or you WILL regret. I don't understand the nvidia fanboys saying that oh thats the wrong version etc. The 7970 is more powerful and there are no benchmarks against it yet on this page, only complainrs by fanboysfrom both nvidia and amd...

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post #38 of 45
At that res the 7970 will be a little faster, every review shows this.
post #39 of 45
I'd get the 7970. Unless your dead set on a NVIDIA product, the 7970 will give you better performance, and cost less as well.

But, if you're dead set on NVIDIA you can always look at a GTX 670. It isn't much slower than a 680, and can OC easily to 680 speeds, but costs much less. There are also 4 GB models of them, but you won't hit the VRAM limit with a 670/680 unless you have at least like 3 of them in SLI.
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post #40 of 45
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Originally Posted by Junkboy View Post

As a current unhappy owner of a matrix, tsm is right gpu tweak reliance is a pita and the quality control issues on the Asus 7970's has been abysmal. Head over to the Rog Asus forums and look around to see how many people have issues with them that can't even run them at stock and have to underclock to get them stable. Others can't get inputs to work properly and I don't believe anyone had ever gotten 5 screens to actually work with one.

Weird artifacts also appear more often because of gpu tweak as I can attest since after I removed it my unstable OC's (or so I thought) became artifact free and I could push the card much farther till temps stopped me (1273 core). Gonna see what a dwood mod does for it see if I can actually utilize the 1.4v Asus had given me.

That said if the classified is out of your price range you're basically screwed. The lighting is the best 680 no questions asked (evbot equipped cards excluded since being discontinued) but only is a 2gb card, and that puts you at the same problem you had before.

I would say mitigate cost as much a possible and try to get a good voltage unlocked 7950 under $350ish to tide you over until next refresh end of year/early 2014. Then use saved cash to upgrade then.

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I concur with this. I tried 3 7970 Matrix-P cards and all of them either had massive heat issues resulting in artifacts even at stock or had decent temps and still crashed. I have my review up on Amazon. I decided to go with the 680 lightning myself. I'm playing at 1440 and it is still great at everything. Haven't played Crysis 3, but I normally don't like them anyway.
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