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Well, after the patch I can max it with ~80-90 FPS with FXAA. If I use SGAA 4x, it runs at ~45-50ish.

Although it still drops my FPS to 10, when I turn on TressFX!
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Originally Posted by NateN34 View Post

Well, after the patch I can max it with ~80-90 FPS with FXAA. If I use SGAA 4x, it runs at ~45-50ish.

Although it still drops my FPS to 10, when I turn on TressFX!

Run the benchmark with everything on except PostFX? See the difference? Should be pretty BIG. TressFx really isn't the problem. No more of a problem than tessellation was when it was first introduced
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Do you guys think that Nvidia will be able to make the GTX 600 series cards perform better, up to the HD 7000 GCN based cards ?

Personally, I have my doubts because the GCN architecture is much better at compute tasks and if many more games start taking advantage of compute resources, which, given the new generation of consoles, is a very likely scenario, the GTX 600 series is less of a value proposition at the price it's at than the HD 7000 series. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia is forced to lower the price of their cards if many more games start taking advantage of compute resources.

And that also brings the question of whether the GTX 700 series will only be a tweaked GK104 or if they will incorporate more compute resources to go against the HD 8000 series.
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Do you guys think that Nvidia will be able to make the GTX 600 series cards perform better, up to the HD 7000 GCN based cards ?

Personally, I have my doubts because the GCN architecture is much better at compute tasks and if many more games start taking advantage of compute resources, which, given the new generation of consoles, is a very likely scenario, which makes the GTX 600 series less of a value proposition at the price it's at than the HD 7000 series. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia is forced to lower the price of their cards if many more games start taking advantage of compute resources.

And that also brings the question of whether the GTX 700 series will only be a tweaked GK104 or if they will incorporate more compute resources to go against the HD 8000 series.

I doubt there will be a driver improvement that does that, can't fix GK104's ROP & bandwidth deficiencies first or its lack of compute performance with drivers. Nvidia being forced to lower GTX 67/80 price is no big loss, the chip itself is much smaller(70mm^2 smaller on the same process) than HD7970 therefore costing less to produce, the profit margin war this gen was a big win by Nvidia judging by their Q4 financial reports.

By the time the AMD optimized console ports start hitting the shelves( holiday season this year), Nvidia's next gen card would be either on the market or just around the corner so I don't see that scenario of yours affecting GTx 600 series.

If GTX 700 launches at the end of this year they are likely to be Maxwell instead of Kepler refresh, as the schedule seem to fit. Maxwell was originally projected for early 2014 but if Nvidia skipped Kepler refresh they could ofc accelerated that.
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I doubt there will be a driver improvement that does that, can't fix GK104's ROP & bandwidth deficiencies first or its lack of compute performance with drivers. Nvidia being forced to lower GTX 67/80 price is no big loss, the chip itself is much smaller(70mm^2 smaller on the same process) than HD7970 therefore costing less to produce, the profit margin war this gen was a big win by Nvidia judging by their Q4 financial reports.

By the time the AMD optimized console ports start hitting the shelves( holiday season this year), Nvidia's next gen card would be either on the market or just around the corner so I don't see that scenario of yours affecting GTx 600 series.

If GTX 700 launches at the end of this year they are likely to be Maxwell instead of Kepler refresh, as the schedule seem to fit. Maxwell was originally projected for early 2014 but if Nvidia skipped Kepler refresh they could ofc accelerated that.

What if GTX 700 series launches in June?
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/index.php?released%5B%5D=y11_c&mfgr%5B%5D=nvidia&mobile=0&sort=released

And Maxwell 1H 2014...
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What if GTX 700 series launches in June?
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/index.php?released%5B%5D=y11_c&mfgr%5B%5D=nvidia&mobile=0&sort=released

And Maxwell 1H 2014...

Maxwell will be the one to watch for, as it should top the GTX Titan at the normal price for a high-end GPU of $500-$600.
   
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LOL!! Is this for real!?

Looks like a poor attempt at photoshop in the SSAA pic. Haha. But it's definitely legitimate. Didn't have this issue prior to the patch. So I'm not sure what could be causing it. Doing a full reinstall fixed the disappearing hair issue but I still can't do SSAA. frown.gif
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why do people think that games on a PS4/xbox720 will be optimised for AMD PC parts. They're pretty different. Not to mention, in a 2 years time, the console's spec will be irrelevant to in regards to PC power
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why do people think that games on a PS4/xbox720 will be optimised for AMD PC parts. They're pretty different. Not to mention, in a 2 years time, the console's spec will be irrelevant to in regards to PC power

PS4 and Next Xbox will both be sporting AMD APU's and AMD GPU's. They will quite literally be AMD pc's living it up as next-gen consoles.
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PS4 and Next Xbox will both be sporting AMD APU's and AMD GPU's. They will quite literally be AMD pc's living it up as next-gen consoles.

The console variants might be optimized but they will have to pump out a generic binary for PCs. You'll lose some of the AMD optimization, I can't quite be sure for GPU stuff though. On the CPU end, for the most part both Intel and AMD support the same features (roughly). I think a few features sway on either side but for the most part it's all the same now (software support).
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