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I was playing BF3 last night across 3 screens in quad xfire and i had no micro stutter at all. So enjoy your thousand dollar titan as i'll destroy it with my 760 dollar pair of 7970's

If I had a Titan, I could care less that a pair of 7970s is putting X% higher frame rates, when I know it isn't perceived as such. If it's not releasing frames in nearly consistent intervals, then you're going to perceive the longer frame outputs. But when running at a higher frame rate, it's less noticeable, because it's like comparing 60 to 80fps, which imo, is far less less noticeable than the difference between 30 to 40fps.

So many don't realize this, and never take it into account, because multi-GPU setups are usually completely overkill. You have people here running SLI and CF on 1080P. And in your case, well, you're running quad-CF, and I remember reading an article at [H] a long time ago that showed MS to actually decrease as you added in more cards. So while you lose scaling per card, you also somehow remove the MS as well (don't remember the exact details of the article).
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HD 7990 Malta (7990XT) is 4,096.00 GFLOPS x2 according to TPU

8 TFLOPS?! If AMD gets that in at $1,000 even, or less, the Titan is going to be smashed.
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If AMD puts out a reference 7990, two are not going to cost a whole lot more than a single Titan, probably in the $700 range per card. I can easily see it being a pair of Bonaire XT (the GPU for the rumored 7790) souped up to 7950 levels. There's a good reason to do it, too, since it will give AMD a window into how GCN 2.0 will scale in Crossfire and allow them to make tweaks for the 8000 series cards.

There is no way a 7990 would be only $700.
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Only a titan owner would roll his eyes at that. Nothing is free in this world. These cards cost money. Why shouldnt we compare 2 7970's for 760 dollars to a single titan for 999.99? Why not 3 way 7950 for 840 to a single titan at 999.99?

There is a lot more to GPU setups than just sheer FPS in a price to performance ratio chart. Driver issues, crossfire profiles, bad scaling, frame-times, stuttering, lack of PCI-E slots, small motherboard cases, cooling options etc. etc. Let alone the flexibility to populate all of your available PCI-E slots with Titan's instead of filling them up faster with a larger quantity of inferior cards. Not to mention the ability with Titan to go well beyond anything that AMD has if you max out both camps. If this is going back to a price to performance debate, yawn. rolleyes.gif There is always a diminishing return on the top cards, and there isn't a single person here that wouldn't replace their current GPU with a Titan if they were given a 1 for 1 exchange.
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In what way? A 7990 will blow a Titan into the weeds. Titan is the fastest single GPU, but if you have a pair of 7970s on a single card and it costs less than a Titan card, what difference does it make? Absolutely zero. The 7990 might draw more power, but anyone looking at 7990s and Titans should already have a beefy power supply anyway.

Exactly. Single vs Dual. Different demographic.

It doesn't compete and appeals to a different market. People who want GTX Titans want them (for two reasons) because they are the fastest single GPUs, either because they don't like or want SLI or because they in fact need GTX Titan SLI and the highest performance available (card vs card) for their high resolution 1600P or surround set-ups. That's what it was intended for.

If you need to have the conversation GTX Titan isn't for you. It's that simple.
    
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Exactly. Single vs Dual. Different demographic.

It doesn't compete and appeals to a different market. People who want GTX Titans want them (for two reasons) because they are the fastest single GPUs, either because they don't like or want SLI or because they in fact need GTX Titan SLI and the highest performance available (card vs card) for their high resolution 1600P or surround set-ups. That's what it was intended for.

If you need to have the conversation GTX Titan isn't for you. It's that simple.

That and the people who are interested in dual GPU setups have had 690s and 7990s as options for a loooong time.

A single Titan doesn't even beat a 690 but that's not the point of the card either. It just seems like this is an impossible thing for people to grasp.
 
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I don't get it. The Firepro W9000 is a 7990 with other drivers. What's taking them so long?
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I don't get it. The Firepro W9000 is a 7990 with other drivers. What's taking them so long?

Probably making a cooler that looks cool, optimizing the drivers (memory management) so the card doesn't get blasted in reviews, figuring out how to get high clocks without getting something ridiculous like 450W power consumption.
 
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Lets derail the thread.

So servers are bad because they use more than 1 CPU?


How about the Q6600? That was 2 Dual core dies.

Way off base there. Servers use dual CPU's because those CPU's can run 100% in tandem (or even greater quantities) because the software supports it.

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Sorry, what?

Sure it's a pain in the butt to have to deal with CAP and scaling but single GPU is not better than multi-gpu.
For your needs you may only need one card but what about those who actually need the power only multi-gpu setups can provide.

Dual GPU ( 7990 or GTX690. )

Not multi GPU (Crossfire or SLI). There is a difference.

2 Titans will scale better than two 690's for instance. As well as being outright faster in most cases.
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Way off base there. Servers use dual CPU's because those CPU's can run 100% in tandem (or even greater quantities) because the software supports it.
Dual GPU ( 7990 or GTX690. )

Not multi GPU (Crossfire or SLI). There is a difference.

2 Titans will scale better than two 690's for instance. As well as being outright faster in most cases.

fairly certain 2* 2500? i think it is, cuda cores isn't going to beat 4* 15xx in "raw" performance in anything other then compute (which everything beats the nvidia 6 series for compute, Even a tegra does)That said i could see them being close due to scaling issues on a fourth card.
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GPGPU programs yes.

In any game, no. 690's in quadfire will trade blows with dual Titans, and usually will lose. Especially as the res goes up.
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