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They aren't just pursuing it now..

MS is still dealing with the ramifications of the judgment, 13 years ago.
 
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post #122 of 300
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Originally Posted by Disturbed117 View Post

Best option for MS is to just count it as a loss, pay the fine and go about as usual.

Which is most likely what they will do ... or fight the ruling and drag it out in court for another decade or so and draw interest on the $750M that they have sitting in the bank to lessen the impact. biggrin.gif
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Which is most likely what they will do ... or fight the ruling and drag it out in court for another decade or so and draw interest on the $750M that they have sitting in the bank to lessen the impact. biggrin.gif

Which does not sound like such a bad idea. biggrin.gif
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IBM personal computers ran DOS which is MS..

Netscape completed by releasing the source code and morphing into FireFox

Yahoo is still around and seems to be doing much better after Marissa took over

Lotus 1-2-3 ran on DOS then Windows and was superseded by MS own program "surprise"

But Lotus is now part of big blue so there OK..

No, DOS was IBM's, iirc. MS bought some rights from IBM and then developed MS-DOS biggrin.gif


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But somehow you think MS owes it to Spotify to run on Windows. Like MS has to let every program in the world run on windows. You're dang right I would provide proprietary options on my own os if other programs were popular. Dang right! Should Joe Shmoe, who created a cup holders for Ford F150, should be allowed to sue Ford for building a new model with cup holders? NO! Joe Shmoe's company only exists because Ford First created the F150. And somehow Joe Shmoe now has say as to what Ford can produce? NO.

Somehow these third party software companies have a right to dictate what runs on software that doesn't belong to them????

All your car analogies are irrelevant and not right.
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No, DOS was IBM's, iirc. MS bought some rights from IBM and then developed MS-DOS biggrin.gif

Actually they didn't.

Microsoft basically bought the rights to Q-DOS from Seattle Computer Products (a one man programming shop) for $75,000 and turned it into MS-DOS. Microsoft then turned around licensed it to IBM.

DOS was NEVER IBM's. They had a license to sell it, but they never (and still don't) own it.
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No, DOS was IBM's, iirc. MS bought some rights from IBM and then developed MS-DOS biggrin.gif

All your car analogies are irrelevant and not right.

IBM Personal computers ran DOS 1.0 which was MS..Hence MS-DOS


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
 
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Ah, I stand corrected biggrin.gif
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All your car analogies are irrelevant and not right.
Yet you dont explain why?
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But somehow you think MS owes it to Spotify to run on Windows. Like MS has to let every program in the world run on windows. You're dang right I would provide proprietary options on my own os if other programs were popular. Dang right! Should Joe Shmoe, who created a cup holders for Ford F150, should be allowed to sue Ford for building a new model with cup holders? NO! Joe Shmoe's company only exists because Ford First created the F150. And somehow Joe Shmoe now has say as to what Ford can produce? NO.

Somehow these third party software companies have a right to dictate what runs on software that doesn't belong to them????

MS owes it to all companies to let every program to run on Windows unless Microsoft has a justified reason not to (i.e. malware). This openness has lead to Window's original adoption. MS can add rules like certificate signing to increase protection but they can arbitary reject a program just because it competes again one of their other applications.

Note, the concept of the walled gardened or curated museum did not exist in Windows. Windows 8 does add the app store but programs are NOT required to be installed through it.

Your analogy is flawed. Joe Shmoe can redesign his cup holder for the new car. However, if the car won't start since it detects a non-licensed cup holder.... Remember, the car analogy is an analogy... it can only go so far. A car is physical while software is not.

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Yet you dont explain why?
...but I do...
Edited by DuckieHo - 3/6/13 at 9:55am
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C:> DIR/P/W

CD..

FORMAT

I remember going into Walmart and formatting the boot drives when I was in HS

Start the computer in DOS


Format C:

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