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*sigh*

People... learn your history, law, and economics....

Critical thinking and comprehension are good skills through life.


The world and this case does not care about you think.... especially if you actually do not understand this case....

Fine is justified. MS admitted fault.

You just assume that people don't know this?

People can be aware of these facts and still think its stupid. Not everyone agrees with the laws.
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MS stopped it in XP because of the lawsuits. Do you think MS would have let FF get over 5% of the marketshare if they weren't sued?

The issue today isn't a lawsuit. Is a fine for breaking the settlement agreements. MS already agreed and apoligized.

Being fined for something that is totally irrelevant is bull still. Not that they shouldn't have been sued in the first place, even though netscape was already on a downward spiral as I had that on my old power mac and I remember it not being that great also had IE on the machine as well and it was slightly quicker at that even though it would crash after a few hours.

Though really MS should have never been forced to give users a choice, it is not hard to download a browser yourself. in 2013 fining a company just because they don't give you a choice yet on your iphone you can only run webkit because apple doesn't want anything else is ok?
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You just assume that people don't know this?

People can be aware of these facts and still think its stupid. Not everyone agrees with the laws.

Yet virtually everyone is stating "MS should be allowed to include IE in Windows!".

If they are saying that.... then they obviously do NOT know the facts.

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Being fined for something that is totally irrelevant is bull still. Not that they shouldn't have been sued in the first place, even though netscape was already on a downward spiral as I had that on my old power mac and I remember it not being that great also had IE on the machine as well and it was slightly quicker at that even though it would crash after a few hours.

Though really MS should have never been forced to give users a choice, it is not hard to download a browser yourself. in 2013 fining a company just because they don't give you a choice yet on your iphone you can only run webkit because apple doesn't want anything else is ok?

See... you are confusing cause and effect. Why was Netscape on downward spiral? Why did it crash after a few hours? It was partially due to Microsoft and not just bad software by the Netscape developers.

In 2000, when people were first starting to use the Internet.... it was hard for most people to download another browser. Why do you think so many people used AOL? Partially, it was because they didn't know any better. This is what happened.

Due to this, the settlement agreement was signed by both parties. While in 2013, an interface to download other browsers may seem silly to us... but you have to look at in in context of 2008-2009 when many Europeans still were not online.

Again, MS is not being punished for IE..... Is Apple blocking other browsers even if those browsers meet all of Apple's requirements?
Edited by DuckieHo - 3/6/13 at 1:24pm
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Yet virtually everyone is stating "MS should be allowed to include IE in Windows!".

If they are saying that.... then they obviously do NOT know the facts.

They should be allowed to.

I am saying that and I am aware of the facts.

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Get this

MS does something wrong.

A case is brought up.

10 years later they are found guilty (because the case takes 10 years to resolve).

Because the wrongdoing is no longer relevant 10 years later, they shouldn't be punished for it?

That's not a world I want to live in.

So if they did something wrong 10 years ago I fail to see why this fine is about Windows 7 SP1. They should be fined for whatever they have done wrong, not fined over something ridiculous now just because of what they did in the past.
     
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Yet virtually everyone is stating "MS should be allowed to include IE in Windows!".

If they are saying that.... then they obviously do NOT know the facts.

You are fighting and uphill battle with these people, just like the last thread about the same subject.
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Being fined for something that is totally irrelevant is bull still. Not that they shouldn't have been sued in the first place, even though netscape was already on a downward spiral as I had that on my old power mac and I remember it not being that great also had IE on the machine as well and it was slightly quicker at that even though it would crash after a few hours.

Though really MS should have never been forced to give users a choice, it is not hard to download a browser yourself. in 2013 fining a company just because they don't give you a choice yet on your iphone you can only run webkit because apple doesn't want anything else is ok?

That is just absolutely pathetic.

The fine is based on their wilful neglect of the 2009 ruling. Which is a ruling that took 10 years to come into being due to the case being fought for 10 long years.

You're saying the fine is bullcrap because, what? Because they're being fined again for not complying with a court order?

Sorry, but your post is total crap.
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Being fined for something that is totally irrelevant is bull still. Not that they shouldn't have been sued in the first place, even though netscape was already on a downward spiral as I had that on my old power mac and I remember it not being that great also had IE on the machine as well and it was slightly quicker at that even though it would crash after a few hours.

Though really MS should have never been forced to give users a choice, it is not hard to download a browser yourself. in 2013 fining a company just because they don't give you a choice yet on your iphone you can only run webkit because apple doesn't want anything else is ok?

Seriously the suit is from before Windows XP..

You do know there was a Windows before XP right..Micro-soft were the first people to berate the home brew computer club because they weren't spending enough on Microsoft..

Who care about iToys to include android and windows 8 toys. these are nothing more than toys, if you identity is based in them you have a lot of growing up to do.
 
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So if they did something wrong 10 years ago I fail to see why this fine is about Windows 7 SP1. They should be fined for whatever they have done wrong, not fined over something ridiculous now just because of what they did in the past.

Seriously??


Che' would be ashamed that you use his likeness ..

the SP1 is what they did wrong..

Please pull the Che' Avatar it does a disservice to his name...
 
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