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Hi,

I would like to upgrade my PC Hi-Fi set.

Atm i use Alesis M1active 520 V3 studio monitors and a small JBL sub (simple home cinema sub) driven by a Asus Essence STX soundcard.

I would like to upgrade all of it but can only afford 1 thing atm since i only have a budget of up to 400,-

Much better speakers for 400,- might be hard so is a USB/DAC or a new sub the way to go ?

Here are some dutch shops i know and have used before.
http://www.rjshop.nl/studio-monitoren/nl/page/79/

http://www.bax-shop.nl/audio-hardware-software/bekijk-alle-producten.html


(This is not about upgrading the other audio thats in my sig rig, only the monitors, jbl sub and/or soundcard)
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i'm going to recommend you pass and bank your money. you can buy speakers or a DA converter that is a little better but inching your way up like this is not good value.
Edited by bumblebee1980 - 3/6/13 at 6:51am
    
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Wouldnt you think a 300 to 400 euro usb dac is vastly superior to a Essence STX ?

Or a good active sub to replace the jbl sub i have now ?
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Wouldnt you think a 300 to 400 euro usb dac is vastly superior to a Essence STX ?

Or a good active sub to replace the jbl sub i have now ?

yes but it's not going to make $250 active monitors sound like $1000 active monitors.

come back when you have $1200. $400 on a digital analog converter, $800 on a new pair of active monitors. at that price you can buy active monitors with 8" drivers.. won't even need a sub.
    
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yes but it's not going to make $250 active monitors sound like $1000 active monitors.

come back when you have $1200. $400 on a digital analog converter, $800 on a new pair of active monitors. at that price you can buy active monitors with 8" drivers.. won't even need a sub.

I cant get it alll at once so i have to do it in steps.
I also understand that a better DAC wont make my monitors sound better, maybe it does make my other P.A system (also in Sig) sound better though.

I understand that if i want to upgrade my monitors i need to spend big bucks if i want to hear an improvement, maybe sell the one's i have for 150,- euro and then i can spend around 500,- euro in a second hand set.

Thing is, i know what to get for P.A but i need Hi-Fi here really and i know less about that then P.A

Btw, i think i would always need a sub, with the (modern)classical and 60's music i listen i dont need it but more then 50% i listen is old reggae from vynil.
Old reggae on vynil cant really do without a sub.
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look in my computer specs. it took me a while to get all that.

absolutely. my Fostex PM841 active monitors and headphone amplifiers are plugged into my DAC smile.gif

look online for HiFi stores in your area. call them and ask if they have demo or show rooms then go audition some speakers. I don't know what brands they are licensed to sell or if they cost more (probably). tell them what kind of music you listen to and give them a budget. even if you don't buy anything you will still learn something.
    
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look in my computer specs. it took me a while to get all that.

absolutely. my Fostex PM841 active monitors and headphone amplifiers are plugged into my DAC smile.gif

look online for HiFi stores in your area. call them and ask if they have demo or show rooms then go audition some speakers. I don't know what brands they are licensed to sell or if they cost more (probably). tell them what kind of music you listen to and give them a budget. even if you don't buy anything you will still learn something.

Things is shops like that hardly exist here anymore frown.gif or not that i know off.
Also in the USA its alot but i mean ALOT cheaper then here.

These Alesis monitors i have now can be found around 225$ in the USA but here they cost 250,- euro ! thats 325$ !

Ill try and have a look around, maybe i could get a good Headphone and save up the rest of the money.

Thanks for your help so far thumb.gif


Btw,
Are these your current speakers ?
http://www.gear4music.nl/nl/Opname-and-Computers/Fostex-PM-841-3-Way-Active-Studio-monitoren-paar/KZ5

How good are they and would it improve much compared to my current monitors ?
The price doesnt seem that bad at all for 8" monitors tbh.
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Would any of these USB Dac's be a good upgrade and good for future monitor upgrade ?

- Xonar Essence One (339,- euro)

- Cambridge DacMagic 100 (329,- euro)

- Musical Fidelity V-dac II (275,- euro)
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I liked the Musical Fidelity V-DAC II when I got to try it. not sure how it holds up today.

the Cambridge DACMagic was actually my last DAC.



I haven't listened to the new Cambridge DACMagic 100 but I read it's not as good. I see the old model in classifieds all the time sometimes BNIB.

I don't like the Asus Essence One. I think there are better Digital Analog Converters at $500 but this also a pre-amplifier and headphone amplifier.

not a fan of the design either..

    
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I liked the Musical Fidelity V-DAC II when I got to try it. not sure how it holds up today.

the Cambridge DACMagic was actually my last DAC.
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I haven't listened to the new Cambridge DACMagic 100 but I read it's not as good. I see the old model in classifieds all the time sometimes BNIB.

I don't like the Asus Essence One. I think there are better Digital Analog Converters at $500 but this also a pre-amplifier and headphone amplifier.

not a fan of the design either..

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The thing is, would lets say the Musical Fidelity V-DAC II be a good enough upgrade that can drive better quality monitors then i have now in the future ?
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