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Greetings.

I'm going to sleeve for the first time.
I already took a look at the Frequently Asked Sleeving Questions-thread

I am going to order the following products:
I am aware that I also need:
  • Lighter
  • Cutters(Cleanest cut possible)
  • Some Tape will make life easier.

Am I missing something from the list and are those okay products to get for 1st time sleever, are there other tools that will make my sleeving experience better/easier?
Would appreciate tips to make sleeving easier.

Thank you in advance!
post #2 of 12
I would skip the heat shrink. The heat shrink less method looks a lot better and is really easy to do. The paracord looks good and I have never used the Phobya Molex Extractor Kit. stay away from the sunbeam kit. I broke mine in 15 minutes.
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Just make sure to buy the tool first and see if you can yank those pins out. I got a corsair 500 watt and the pins will NOT budge. I can de-pin my Antec like butter, but not the corsair! So before spending money on other materials make sure you can de-pin or have a alternate plan.
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Give this a read from my faq. Also please dont get any depinning kits as they are all kinda junk. A original molex tool, a 4pin extractor and an exacto knife is your best tools.

Also depending on if you are using paracord or plastic sleeving and what method of sleeving you will use you may or may not need heatshrink.

Heatshrink Method = you will need it no matter what
Heathshrinkless Method = You will need it for PET plastic sleeving but not for paracord.

There is a section in my FAQ that explains it.


What Sleeving Tools Will I Need For My Sleeving Job?
– What Sleeving Tools Will I Need For A Clean Looking Sleeving Job? Click to Expand (Click to show)

You will need at least some basic tools as well as some advanced depending on how much sleeving you are going to be doing. Now you can use staples and such, but I highly discourage this as it can be more of a hassle than it needs to be if you just buy the right tools and do it right the first time.

I have made an in-depth purchasing guide as well as a video break down of each tool and why it is important.

To view the video guide, please look at my Youtube Video on the subject located here - Please note that since this video I have found better tools for these jobs and I have updated them in the list but the basics are the same.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3cgnC6FVk&feature=player_embedded.

Also here is the full purchase list of tools:
Quote:
Basic "Must Have" Sleeving Tools

Scissors: Can be found most places - look for Precision Scissors.

Flush Side Cutter:
http://lutro0-customs.com/products/lc-flush-cutter

Round Molex Remover:
http://lutro0-customs.com/products/round-4pin-extractor
But can also be found in other shops as well

Molex Extraction Tool. Part Number : 11-03-0044:
http://lutro0-customs.com/products/original-molex-extractor
But can be found all over the web such as Frozencpu and Performance-PCs

Masking tape: Found at most stores this is used for numbering your cables if you use that method or if you dont buy a paracord threading tool to cover the pins when using Small diameter sleeving or paracord so it doesnt snag.

Lighter: Found at most stores. I prefer a bic lighter because its easier to control the flame and its not too hot. A torch lighter sounds like a good idea but it will insta melt the heatshrink.

Heatgun: There is too many options to list, try Amazon, Ebay, or Froogle.
http://www.amazon.com/Kawasaki-840015-Black-10-Piece-Heat/dp/B000H4I67I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316907761&sr=8-1

This heatgun may have some bad reviews but its been one that I have used for a long time with no issues and at the time of posting this it was 15 bucks.

You can find a heatgun anywhere but looks for a dual speed and one that comes with a reducer as small as you can get it - this will help you when you need to pin point your sleeving.

I have seen people have luck with embossing guns with reducers as well.

Paracord Tool Threader: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/paracord-tool-threader - This is only if you are using paracord, basically you use this or the masking tape but this tool will make your sleeving faster and frustrations less.

Exacto Hobby Knife : Found at most stores - this is used to open most pins that the original molex tool and the round pin extractor dont - DO NOT GET SUCKED INTO THE ALL IN ONE KITS - as they all are poorly made. Get the right tools the first time and dont waste money.

LC Sleeving Tool:
http://lutro0-customs.com/products/lc-sleeving-tool-ai-version

This is only needed if you are going to do heatshrink style sleeving as it helps mark the perfect spot for the sleeve so you get straight heatshrinks the whole time.
Optional / Advanced Sleeving Tools
Molex Crimper:
Overlap - http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1277 : This is the Hans Long Crimper and is found in most places that sell modding supplies - I suggest against getting this even though the price is tempting. But I go through this further later in the FAQ.

Bite - http://lutro0-customs.com/products/custom-sleeved-12-24pin-extension : This crimper is hand milled to perfection by me and tested and is the cheapest/best crimper before having to shell out 200 or more to get the original molex crimper. I go over this more later in the FAQ.

Self Adjusting Wire Stripper:
http://lutro0-customs.com/products/knipex-1262180-self-adjusting-insulation-strippers : Don't let the price get you discouraged - look at the link and check the examples and you will see why its important to have this tool. It is the cheapest for its design anything below rips the wire and anything higher does the same.

Heat Shrink Cutting Jig : DIY - http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2883/worklog002.jpg - It is self explainitory, and can be made out of anything, just make sure your length is set to what you want.

Big Sharp Knife : Found in most stores and this is for the jig only.

Soldering Kit : Found in most hobby stores.
post #5 of 12
Phobya molex kit extractor is made of really soft metal - pins doesn't go out so easily. Go for original molex extractor wink.gif
post #6 of 12
@ Lutro - I did read through your FAQ (unfortunately, after the fact). The tool I am using is from Frozencpu and looks very much like the one you listed for ATX 24pin. I did not buy the all in one junk. I still cannot get the pins out of my Corsair CX500M. Contemplating cutting the connector and just buy a new one. I might pick one up from your store along with some good quality sleeve (white if you got any). I bought some Techflex PET from partsexpress and not quite happy with them. The color of the wire shows through somewhat. Maybe I will use that to practice on my Antec.
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Originally Posted by Awaz View Post

I still cannot get the pins out

Here's my epic picture of the inside of a connector, showing why pins are sometimes tough to extract. You can see that the pin wings (black) get stuck in the housing (brown). So even with the correct tool, the wings won't depress enough to let the pin slide out. You need the push the wire and pin further into the connector, and wiggle it around, to free the wings before the extractor can do its work.

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Here's my epic picture of the inside of a connector, showing why pins are sometimes tough to extract. You can see that the pin wings (black) get stuck in the housing (brown). So even with the correct tool, the wings won't depress enough to let the pin slide out. You need the push the wire and pin further into the connector, and wiggle it around, to free the wings before the extractor can do its work.


Wisk and his awesome drawing are correct, but also the frozen cpu tool if its the one I am thinking of ( I have a set of all of them, had to get them for testing ) it looks the same but the prongs are a little shorter.

Even with Wisks advice wich is a fully pro tip for any psu, you will have to pull kinda hard, but make sure its straight force meaning its going straight out of the connector. It will release.
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After my tool broke last time I ended up using two staples and a small pair of needle nose pliers. Worked pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Lutro0 View Post

Give this a read from my faq. Also please dont get any depinning kits as they are all kinda junk. A original molex tool, a 4pin extractor and an exacto knife is your best tools.

Also depending on if you are using paracord or plastic sleeving and what method of sleeving you will use you may or may not need heatshrink.

Heatshrink Method = you will need it no matter what
Heathshrinkless Method = You will need it for PET plastic sleeving but not for paracord.

There is a section in my FAQ that explains it.


What Sleeving Tools Will I Need For My Sleeving Job?
– What Sleeving Tools Will I Need For A Clean Looking Sleeving Job? Click to Expand (Click to show)

You will need at least some basic tools as well as some advanced depending on how much sleeving you are going to be doing. Now you can use staples and such, but I highly discourage this as it can be more of a hassle than it needs to be if you just buy the right tools and do it right the first time.

I have made an in-depth purchasing guide as well as a video break down of each tool and why it is important.

To view the video guide, please look at my Youtube Video on the subject located here - Please note that since this video I have found better tools for these jobs and I have updated them in the list but the basics are the same.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3cgnC6FVk&feature=player_embedded.

Also here is the full purchase list of tools:

Thanks for linking the FAQ, I will take a closer look at it when I when I'm about to order the accessories.
Could you educate me a bit about the heat shrinkless method, how to do it?
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