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Had to sign up just to dispel the nonsense being spewed here. I'd really like to thank ez12a in particular for being honest and truthful with information, fighting against the anti-Apple fanboyism.

The ludicrous ignorance you're showing is just depressing. Apple had nothing to do with this card.

This is a fantasy world that lives in the minds of exclusive Windows users.

Apple is making no money from this card whatsoever. Sapphire did no dealing with Apple in making this card. Sapphire is making all of the money.


Don't spew this FUD.

Again, no, not in the slightest. This is a fantasy construct of the Windows world.

1. The Radeon series cards provided by Apple in the past have always been ATI-branded, red-cased cards. The nVidia cards provided by Apple in the past have always been nVidia-branded, black and green-cased cards, or, in the case of the GT120, grey. No graphics cards provided by Apple have ever been white. Apple's choice is to have them not be white. Your argument is based in fallacy.
2. (product) RED is a cross-industry, cross-product, cross-platform campaign against AIDS. Regardless of your stance on the effectiveness campaign itself, the color has nothing whatsoever to do with Apple specifically.

TDP, I'd imagine. Isn't it rather high?

You hate it because of your ignorance. Same as others here, it seems.

Apple receives no money from this card. Apple had nothing to do with this card.


Tim Cook has stated that the Mac Pro will be receiving an update this year. This aftermarket card, however, is not indicative of that. 

You're wrong, but only in this regard. OS X requires graphics cards with an EFI ROM.

1. The "rumor" was confirmed last year when Tim Cook stated they're releasing an update.
2. Fantasyland.



The best course of action is to prove Sapphire wrong by not buying this junk and simply flashing a 7950 made by some other brand. You're right; it shouldn't be allowed.

Question. You're all probably more up to speed on this stuff than I: when is Microsoft finally going to force Windows to be EFI-only across the board? That'll fix this extortionate crap right up.


You are so completely delusional it's amazing you even know how to type.
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You are so completely delusional it's amazing you even know how to type.

Well he's right. Apple has no affiliation with this product.
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Well he's right. Apple has no affiliation with this product.

Except that this product would not be possible without apple licencing. You really think a company like apple is going to just hand that out to sapphire for free?

Furthermore, it is apple who fixes the prices on all of their own products and does not allow sellers to sell things below MSRP. They wouldn't allow a made-for-apple product to be priced lower than their own OEM products, as it would destroy their pricing. You can bet that part of the license agreement they made with sapphire is that the price must remain above a set value.
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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

Except that this product would not be possible without apple licencing. You really think a company like apple is going to just hand that out to sapphire for free?

Furthermore, it is apple who fixes the prices on all of their own products and does not allow sellers to sell things below MSRP. They wouldn't allow a made-for-apple product to be priced lower than their own OEM products, as it would destroy their pricing. You can bet that part of the license agreement they made with sapphire is that the price must remain above a set value.

Hundreds of products use apple licensing that are far below their own products in terms of price. This has nothing to do with apple licensing or the price of their own products. The same thing happened with all the other components created by third parties for the mac pro, mac mini and imac. They're all far below the price of the version apple sells. I would go as far to say that sapphires communication with apple in the development of this product has been very limited. Non existant even.
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Furthermore, it is apple who fixes the prices on all of their own products and does not allow sellers to sell things below MSRP. They wouldn't allow a made-for-apple product to be priced lower than their own OEM products, as it would destroy their pricing.

I normally don't chime in, but your post is nothing more than categorical nonsense. Completely false.

I should edit this. Yes, Apple sets the prices on THEIR wares. Who else would? But anything else made by other companies they have positively no say on pricing. Think about what you're saying for a second, then ask yourself why you even said it. So much deliberate misinformation here.
Edited by Gigatel - 3/20/13 at 7:06pm
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Of course it'll be double the price. It's a Mac part.

Seems to confirm the rumors that Apple is having another go-round of the hilariously overpriced and outdated Mac Pro


or they could be getting ready for a new Mac Pro...
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wow I could get a 7970 with a waterblock and all the bells and whistles for that price eek.gif

I don't personally hate Apple but I don't like how they are getting so big so quickly. I think something should be done to make it harder for companies to monopolise the market, I think it starting to become a problem now with apple almost becoming a trillion dollar company in the not too distant future.

You could probably buy a country for that much haha

I mean it used to be what's AMD now it seems like it will become what's a PC in not too long (however there will always be enthusiasts like us). at my college almost 3/4 of the people use macs of some sort. I really think there should be healthy competition as it gives consumers a choice.

Question: assuming you can would buying this card buy itself see the extra cost go as profit to sapphire or apple? and what makes it so expensive? The white plastic surely can't cost that much as you could mod the same thing for $20 and also what makes it that they are able to sell such expensive but average performing devices like that for so much?

this is what makes me think apple fans a such suckers to pay so much for so little when an equivalent price for a PC gets you so much more power (unless you're watercooling tongue.gif )

EDIT: also I hate how apple lock everything down so absolutely nothing can be changed either
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wow I could get a 7970 with a waterblock and all the bells and whistles for that price eek.gif

I don't personally hate Apple but I don't like how they are getting so big so quickly. I think something should be done to make it harder for companies to monopolise the market, I think it starting to become a problem now with apple almost becoming a trillion dollar company in the not too distant future.

You could probably buy a country for that much haha

I mean it used to be what's AMD now it seems like it will become what's a PC in not too long (however there will always be enthusiasts like us). at my college almost 3/4 of the people use macs of some sort. I really think there should be healthy competition as it gives consumers a choice.

Question: assuming you can would buying this card buy itself see the extra cost go as profit to sapphire or apple? and what makes it so expensive? The white plastic surely can't cost that much as you could mod the same thing for $20 and also what makes it that they are able to sell such expensive but average performing devices like that for so much?

this is what makes me think apple fans a such suckers to pay so much for so little when an equivalent price for a PC gets you so much more power (unless you're watercooling tongue.gif )
There's several factors why Sapphire would charge more. It could be any combination of these, or all of them:

1. They may have to pay licensing fees to Apple.
3. It may need specific firmware, drivers, and it needs to support EFI and BIOS emulation.
2. They won't sell or produce (in bulk) as many as the normal 7950.
4. They're able to charge more because Mac users don't have any other option.
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No. Apple have an option not to bundle it with Mac Pros. Instead, Apple (and Sapphire) is making huge profits from the 3.5 year old graphics card.
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And if sapphire are making money too then that's cool too

just getting tired of apple charging a premium for parts they don't make themselves...

Apple is making no money from this card whatsoever. Sapphire did no dealing with Apple in making this card. Sapphire is making all of the money.


Don't spew this FUD.

So having an opinion on sapphire making money is FUD now? so much for being civil...

You realise apple will be milking the licensing for this product right?

As a a Technician and Apple reseller I'm pretty sure I can imagine what kind of mark ups apple implements on their licensed products compared to other non-apple products

Also welcome to OCN, and thanks for spewing your rant!
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Sucks that it's gonna be that price, but considering that there's no macs that it can fit in that cost less than $3K... it's dirt cheap! biggrin.gif
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