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Shhhhh! We need to convince him he has to try them first, *then* hit him with the uncomfortable pricing.

I am taking this out of context most likely, but I dont care.

Save up a little bit and buy something that is phenomenal, rather than something that just works, especially if it is something you will use often. My daskeyboard is built like a tank, types like I prefer, and I will probably use it for many years. I have already used it for like four years, and it looks and types like new. Plus, it has nothing written on the keys, and has taught me to be a better typist.

Im really sick of all of this Chinese junk that everyone fills their living spaces with. Manufactured using nonrenewable resources, in polluting factories, shipped in tankers that are basically unregulated and pollute as much as the factories... all so that we can fill our houses with a bunch of junk and the corporations can make some tiny amount of money per sale to billions of people. I kind of wish every keyboard cost $100 just to teach people to take care of the things they buy... but hey, it was only 20 bucks.
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To me it would seem that Greens would be too stiff for long term use or those that don't pound on their keys. I did a simple non-scientific test by taking off my space bar and putting a normal key (the "V" key in case you were wondering) on the MX Green switch (which is what my space bar uses). I found that using the same force that I use for my MX Blues (what all the other keys on my keyboard use) that I would sometimes not fully actuate the MX Green switch. That would be a problem right off the bat.

Second I also noticed that when using the MX Green switch with a normal key and applying normal pressure to it that it was much more resistant...a lot more than I would like. I will say however that I could see me maybe replacing some of the Blue switches for Greens, especially those used on the larger keys (backspace, Enter, Tab, Caps Lock, etc). However, for the normal typing keys I could see myself much more wanting the Blues especially for longer typing sessions and gaming. I did notice that the Green sounds a lot less "harsh" in a way. The click isn't as high pitched and metallic sounding as the Blues. I guess it's just the spring? As far as I know the Greens and Blues are exactly the same except for the pressure required to press the spring down.

Again, all this is subjective, but this is just quick experience given my deep study of the different keys. tongue.gif
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I am taking this out of context most likely, but I dont care.

Save up a little bit and buy something that is phenomenal, rather than something that just works, especially if it is something you will use often. My daskeyboard is built like a tank, types like I prefer, and I will probably use it for many years. I have already used it for like four years, and it looks and types like new. Plus, it has nothing written on the keys, and has taught me to be a better typist.

Im really sick of all of this Chinese junk that everyone fills their living spaces with. Manufactured using nonrenewable resources, in polluting factories, shipped in tankers that are basically unregulated and pollute as much as the factories... all so that we can fill our houses with a bunch of junk and the corporations can make some tiny amount of money per sale to billions of people. I kind of wish every keyboard cost $100 just to teach people to take care of the things they buy... but hey, it was only 20 bucks.
I'm gonna go out on a limb, but my HPE keyboard is made in China and it is either of equal or better quality than the Filco MJ2 I bought and returned. Maybe I got a bad Filco but I was not impressed.

I'm about to write a complete review on the keyboard and internals to express that I would spend $120 on this keyboard, even though it only costs $65.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb, but my HPE keyboard is made in China and it is either of equal or better quality than the Filco MJ2 I bought and returned. Maybe I got a bad Filco but I was not impressed.

I'm about to write a complete review on the keyboard and internals to express that I would spend $120 on this keyboard, even though it only costs $65.

Filco is just a name. I found my Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid to actually be a much better built keyboard with a much more solid feel than my cousins Filco. Plus people tend to forget that a MX SWITCH IS A MX SWITCH. The MX Blues found in your cheap a$$ Rosewill keyboard are exactly the same as the MX Blues found in that $200 Filco/Ducky/whatever. So all it boils down to is case quality and PCB quality...and guess how much of a difference there is there...rolleyes.gif
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Filco is just a name. I found my Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid to actually be a much better built keyboard with a much more solid feel than my cousins Filco. Plus people tend to forget that a MX SWITCH IS A MX SWITCH. The MX Blues found in your cheap a$$ Rosewill keyboard are exactly the same as the MX Blues found in that $200 Filco/Ducky/whatever. So all it boils down to is case quality and PCB quality...and guess how much of a difference there is there...rolleyes.gif
There's actually quite a bit of a difference in PCB quality between the QFR and a Filco. Filco's are dual layer and have much better solder joints.

Key-cap quality, stabilizer quality, backplate design and backplate mounting are also things that determine quality.

My Filco MJ2 had casing defects and really unusual key-wobble. I just didn't feel like I got enough for my money considering that the keycaps will inevitably shine over anyway because they are ABS.

I heard that the HPE 87 was a Filco clone so I bought one and bought some Ducky PBT and I am very happy for $100 all-in. This keyboard is very well made. It's one of the few keyboards I know that comes pre-lubed from factory. Also, the stock ABS key caps are pretty thick, although I took them off as soon as I got the keyboard. tongue.gif

Personally I think people would be a lot happier if they bought HPE 87s over the QFR like everyone seems to be doing. QFRs aren't that bad I guess since they are so cheap and everyone mods them anyway.
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QFR is FR-2. Filco is FR-4 if I'm not mistaken. FR-2 for the most part is cheaper. You usually see it in lower end peripherals. (G400 etc...)

No clue why industry limits choice to ABS or PBT. A lot of material to choose from albeit pricing adjustment accordingly biggrin.gif
Edited by Skylit - 3/28/13 at 7:15am
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