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Originally Posted by slim617
yes, the decision to go with a new case has been decided through this conversaion, i had only one person helping me an it has turned out that there is again... more no definitive answers
- i feel like i should jst start a new thread?
- decision has been to get a fractal r4, but will it fit everything i need?
-what other silent cases are there?
- what open loop do i need to run my system the way i want?
- mainly what radiator size and if 14mm would fit?
- i have 2hdd and 1 ssd
- gtx 670
I showed pretty well that 240 or 280 radiators will fit with no problem in the top or front. In the front you could use a super thick 240 or 280 huge fan shrouds and 38mm thick server fans in push pull with shrouds on both sides and besides looking silly it would probably still work.
The case as very roomy because it is about 3" wider then other cases which gives the top fan much more clearance from motherboard heatsinks even if it has to go over the motherboard. If you don't want it to go over the motherboard at all there is more clearance for it above the motherboard as well.
This case was not originally a case that I was thinking of buying. At price was def a problem as it wasn't my budget I was working with it was someone elses. Sound was also not a concern and I didn't even realize it had sound dampening material till I got it home. I also didn't realize it was made of steel till I got it home. Nor did I know the hard drive cages came out without cutting (I was prepared to cut the crap out of it).
As for your 2 hard drives. You should have no problem mounting them either in the 5.25 bay, between the motherboard tray and back panel, or on the floor of the case. Also you could mount one to the bottom of the 5.25" bays by flipping the drive upside down (screw holes facing up) and screwing it to the bottom of the 5.25 bays. You will have to drill holes for the screws but thats no problem (use a high quality bit and oil since it is steel).
Honestly it is my opinion that this case has the most volue out of any case I have ever bought. I say VALUE because I still prefer a super case like a 800D but honestly after having to transport my 800D from my house to a friend's a few days ago I am not sure if I still believe that.
Anyways get the R4 you will not regret it. I recommend the one without the window if you case about the sound and I recommend mounting your radiator to the front and not the top that way you can leave the sound deadening material in the top. If you end up using a closed loop cooler and the hoses are not long enough then use a fan gasket or a fan shroud to back the radiator out a little bit. I used rubber washers in front of the fans (not between the fan and the radiator) and that was just the 2mm I needed to get the cold plate to mount all the way down.
Once you have had the chance to disassemble this case you will see what I mean. The only negative thing I have to say about the case is that the motherboard tray does not have a hole cur out for changing the heat sink bracket. Now while this doesn't matter to most people and it didn't matter to me for this build it does matter for my other computers because I am often swapping out air cooling heat sinks and water cooling blocks on a regular basis and prefer not to have to remove the motherboard. If that matter at all to you then you can just cut a square hole out yourself but be prepared I cut a hole out on all 3 of my chieftec dragon cases and they where all the steel models you will need to use some beefed up tools because steel doesn't give like aluminum
Anyways any questions PM me .