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Unfortunately, none of this is surprising and anyone following the domain could foresee this from miles away. Not only in gaming but also in software with the "cloud". They always wanted to control the user experience and the only way to do it is to move their games on their servers as much as possible. Eventually they will stream the video and audio output to you and you will have no choice but to connect to their service. Of course it will cost you and you will have to endure ads, locked content, micro payments *cough*TV anyone?*cough*.

They don't want to make money, they want to rape your wallet and watch you smile while they rape you. The making money argument is just wrong. The consumers have to pull their side of the cord when the other side is pulling.
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Xbox is able to do it.

for single player? It's pretty understood that without internet, you cannot play multiplayer. When the internet goes out, that's when you play with bots or in instant action smile.gif
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I never understood why people complain about this. No sale is more then enough to tell them that we dont like the way they are doing business. If you like certain games buy them and keep playing them. If the new game that comes out has DRM simply dont buy it. If everyone does so they will change their ways. Their a business after all. They are there to make maximum profit. They will please customers if they have to but not if they are not forced too. lets same Game X sold 1 million copies. 20,000 people complain for DRM. Next game comes out and they remove DRM. Game only sells 800K copies. People like the game and no complaints. They would much rather take first approach.
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I get so tired of hearing about how DRM is required to prevent pirating. IMHO, excessive/unrealistic/game-damaging DRM actually PROMOTES pirating. Who would not be happier playing a pirated game that runs smoothly the way they WANT it to run as opposed to playing a game that is full of bugs and frustrating occurances as a result of poorly managed DRM? Besides, can anyone name 5 or more POPULAR games in the last 10 years that have NOT been "cracked" within DAYS of their public release?... I am of course referring to ONLY single player games or game modes, since multi-player games by definition would need to be online to play, and there are many ways of regulating authorized play there.

Don't misunderstand me - I am very much against pirating of games that takes money out of the pockets of those responsible for giving us those great games in the first place, but hackers are going to ply their trade regardless, and the only people left to suffer through trying to play unplayable games are the honest people who actually paid the money for them. In effect, we game buyers are not only paying for the work that went into the games, but we are paying to let hackers/pirates have FREE games that actually play and run BETTER than the versions we lay out our hard-earned money for!

I could go on for hours writing about this topic, but it has all been said sooooo many times already. Do a little research... GOOD games that are not crippled by bad DRM are MORE PROFITABLE than games that are "secure" and "unhackable".

Just a little humorous sidenote - an aquaintance of mine recently complained that he had to go and actually PAY for a copy of a game that he badly wanted to play. He had searched for several weeks for a hacked/pirated version and COUNDN'T FIND ONE!!! The reason, he eventually discovered, was that the game had NO DRM and therefore therefore no-one had bothered with trying to hack it!!!


BTW, I own literally THOUSANDS of PC games (from "The Bard's Tale" on 5.25 floppy to the Crysis, Dead Space, Morrowind, Mass Effect, Gothic, STALKER, Dragon Age, Divinity, Dungeon Seige, Borderlands, FEAR, Sacred, and Witcher series, and many many more. But I will NEVER purchase Diablo 3, the recent SimCity, and other really otherwise potentially great games BECAUSE of the online requirements!
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I never understood why people complain about this. No sale is more then enough to tell them that we dont like the way they are doing business. If you like certain games buy them and keep playing them. If the new game that comes out has DRM simply dont buy it. If everyone does so they will change their ways. Their a business after all. They are there to make maximum profit. They will please customers if they have to but not if they are not forced too. lets same Game X sold 1 million copies. 20,000 people complain for DRM. Next game comes out and they remove DRM. Game only sells 800K copies. People like the game and no complaints. They would much rather take first approach.

The only only problem with that resolution to the problem is the huge number of people who buy a game only to belatedly discover that there is some unexpected and unanticipated problem with it that ruins the game for them, and are then unable (in most cases) to return those games for a refund. And don't say that doesn't happen. I have more than one "coaster" on my shelves that I purchased on the strength of word of mouth or past experience only to find that I had been royally screwed! (I hope I can say that on here!)
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The only only problem with that resolution to the problem is the huge number of people who buy a game only to belatedly discover that there is some unexpected and unanticipated problem with it that ruins the game for them, and are then unable (in most cases) to return those games for a refund. And don't say that doesn't happen. I have more than one "coaster" on my shelves that I purchased on the strength of word of mouth or past experience only to find that I had been royally screwed! (I hope I can say that on here!)

You decide to buy it and should do research before doing so. Dont rush to buy stuff @ launch and let other be the testers. I have all my games in Steam and Origin and am i am fine + always have Internet connection.
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Signed -- though I would have shot my parents if they named me "Miracle Whiting".
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Signed!
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Or maybe, this might be a crazy idea, VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS.
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double post.
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