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Well, I'm sure once the servers are up and solid, EA will reward its faithful with lots of extras they can buy with microtransactions.

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And that one mistake made you mistake free your whole life I bet. I'm just trying to say that mistakes happen. You will keep making them, I will keep making them, everyone will keep making them. If someone got lost in the hype and bought the game, so be it. If someone didn't have access to their internet connection because they were out of town for a little while and bought a game in a franchise they loved, so be it. If someone bought the game knowing full well there were server issues, so be it.

Good sir, server issues were never advertised as a feature for the game.
Going back to the hummer analogy, the MPG is plastered on the thing. Meanwhile, the server issues are the equivalent of giant rabbies filled racoon leaping from the backseat while i'm driving. Definitely not advertised, would not buy.
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The analogy isn't even close. You can do research on a Hummer, and if you buy it new, there's a huge sticker on the side window proclaiming its low MPG.

In this case, people preordered with the expectation of being able to play on the day of release, and they can't, and many still can't days later. You can't fault them for not doing research on something that couldn't have been known. It might have been expected by some, yes, but bad to this extent? I don't think anyone predicted that.

Dude, its a game not a dang car!

I know Sim City did a beta test, but you know what was weird about that? No one hade any of the isdsues they have now then. I don't get it.

Plus, since when did buying a game turn into doing complete and totally Research, you're just supposed to by the game you like and play it.... But Now they are adding strings attached, and "Batteries Not Included" type stuff. EA is wrong. They never released anything saying that "Some players may not be able to access the game at all times and blah blah blah"
    
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Good sir, server issues were never advertised as a feature for the game.
Going back to the hummer analogy, the MPG is plastered on the thing. Meanwhile, the server issues are the equivalent of giant rabbies filled racoon leaping from the backseat while i'm driving. Definitely not advertised, would not buy.

I don't think you understood what I was saying there. And how could you know of the rabbies filled racoon before purchase of the hummer? The analogy doesn't reeeeaaaally work here.
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I know Sim City did a beta test, but you know what was weird about that? No one hade any of the isdsues they have now then. I don't get it.

Lie.

It was well documented people couldn't access the game due to server issues.

Me included:


The fanboy response:
"Oh well, it's beta!"
 
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the hummer analogy does not work, its like buying a car and the immobilizer that stops the car for starting for thiefs stops the owner from starting his own car.
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Really, if you were daft enough to buy this DRM riddled hell, you deserve what you get. Too much of the game requires a net connection, and all it takes is for them to have server issues to stop you from playing what you rightfully paid for. (or for your Internet Service to go offline) Too much faith to be put in others hands, i'd much rather cut out the middle men.

A few years from now, you'll probably find EA's closed the servers in anticipation for the next release, so you can forget playing titles like this for any nostalgia later down the road. Why do people pay more for less is beyond me.

This is also another example as to WHY BOXED COPIES are worth far more then any digital copy. Because you get more for your money and something to shelf for later on - at the very least you'd have that for this game, even if you can't access the servers to play it.

To top it off with the legal grey area's surrounding Digital purchases, i'll always avoid such things and go with a hardcopy alternative. Always.

I am not sure if this is even DRM to complain about. No one complains that you have to log into a WoW server to play WoW for example. What I think should be complained about is that you have to log into a server at all, but I don't think you are logging in for DRM purposes. That is just a nice feature for EA that comes with forcing this cloud gaming thing. And yeah...I am giving this game a life span of about three years before the servers are shutdown unless EA decides they are making enough money off it via DLCs or invent new ways like micro transactions for temporary boosts in the game or real world in game advertising or something.

As for the boxes though...I'd actually be willing to pay more for a digital copy. I despise pointless objects laying around. I don't even want the shelf there to put stuff on...just more crap I have to dust. You typically don't have issues downloading a game...I've never had a problem yet with one at least. It sounds like there was some issues with this one though, but once release week is done that "should" vanish...the issues with connecting to a server likely will not go away for long time and you would have that issue no matter if you bought a retail box or downloaded it through Origin. So not every one wants these boxes any more and they don't really solve anything.

And what is the legal grey area? There is no difference between buying a copy in a store and buying the download...well, besides the manner of delivery.
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Glad I stopped purchasing EA games a while ago. I will never buy one again.
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I understand why, the game is not broken. The server situation is to be expected when new game releases.
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Glad I stopped purchasing EA games a while ago. I will never buy one again.

Well I hope your honorable efforts make a difference.
    
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