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I have $500 to spend (willing to go slightly over budget). I want to grab either a 8350 or 3570k and a motherboard to go along with whichever cpu I end up choosing. The 3570k seems to do better in certain games, but the 8350 seems to do better in heavily threaded applications. I want to be able to multitask like a god lol. Like play games like WoW ,League of legends, skyrim, battlefield 3, shogun 2, and alt tab and not notice a performance dip when doing other things. I have also always wanted to be a gaming youtuber/livestreamer but my current pc never had the power to play the games smooth enough and fraps at the same time. So what would be better for me? Also any money left over would be spent for more upgrades like ram, ssds, or a new case If this thread seems unclear on what im asking just tell me Im tired as crap atm xD thnx in advance
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A majority of the games you listed there play better on the i5-3570k and a handful of the others are just about tied. If you want to stream those games, I'd go for the i5. For example, TechReport tested the i5-3570k and FX-8350 in Skyrim while transcoding video and the i5 came out on top. That's a test that pretty well approximates performance while streaming. The only review that shows the FX-8350 doing better while streaming is so chock full of errors and has so soundly been discredited that I won't even bother linking to it.
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The teksyndicate review? Is that the one your talking about?
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post #4 of 43
i am a true blue intel fan.

BUT with a tight budget and if the price difference means you can get better RAM; the 8350 would be better for you.

you might even consider the FX-8320 . . . .
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The teksyndicate review? Is that the one your talking about?

Yup. It's an absolute garbage review.
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post #6 of 43
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Thats what i was thinking with AMD route i can pick up the chip for like $200 a decent mobo for $85-$130 and and spend the rest on like 8-16gb of ram or something
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post #7 of 43
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I've only built one pc ever and it was AMD and it has served my well so naturally Im and AMD fanboy, yes? And even watching the video I was like: "This contradicts every thing else I've seen on the internet..." Haha so I guess 3570k > 8350 but with my budget would an overall performance upgrade be better or just get the better cpu?
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post #8 of 43
Either CPU will do well in a multi-tasking environment. Where the 8350 really shines is when you throw a game (Skyrim and BF3 are good examples) that can use all of your available cores, or when you turn it loose rendering and it can use all eight cores. On those types of workloads, it is often better than a 3570K and sometimes better than the big-ticket Intel i7's.

On a game which can't use more than two cores, of which there are plenty, the 3570 is going to come out ahead because of its better IPC. Even with the higher clockspeed of the 8350, the 3570 has noticeably faster single-core performance.

I really think you would be satisfied with either one of the two. Both of them are powerful CPU's and a great value for the money.

If you're not planning to ever do Crossfire, you could pick up an 8350 and a Gigabyte 970A-UD3 motherboard (excellent for o/c with 8+2 VRM's) for less than $300 total, and then have plenty left over for an extra 4GB of RAM (upping you to 8 gigs), and a pretty nice SSD to speed up booting and loading programs.
     
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Yup. It's an absolute garbage review.

I don't think it's completely garbage. It at least shows that an AMD rig with a good motherboard is better than an Intel rig with a mATX or low end motherboard.

To me it at least shows that you're better off with AMD + nice motherboard as opposed to Intel + cheap motherboard. The other reviews are deceiving because they all use high end motherboards for everyone. People then turn around and buy some cheap ass $75 Intel board and think it's going to run like a $250 one.

I've been wanting to see a review where we see low end boards benchmarked against high end ones. I'd be really interested to see just how well a low end board holds up against a Sabertooth or something.

Back in the day this was common practice, but it seems to have stopped completely AFAIK.
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post #10 of 43
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The 8350 with the Gigabyte 970A-UD3 sounds good and im thinking with the remaining $200 I could get 8gb of G.SKILL Sniper Series and an SSD that seems like a pretty huge performance boost for the money ehh?
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