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No point in being an early adopter for Haswell when USB3 is broken on it. Restarting every application after it wakes from sleep with USB3 stuff plugged in sounds fun. I'm sure Intel will sweep this under the rug like their Cougar Point issues and the fanboys will not care at all. Who cares if SATA performance degrades over time, I have bigger bars in benchmarks!

Yeah. Dont buy haswell because it has an issue with coming out of sleep mode lachen.giflachen.giflachen.giflachen.gif
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Yeah. Dont buy haswell because it has an issue with coming out of sleep mode lachen.giflachen.giflachen.giflachen.gif
if i went haswell this wouldnt really concern me, i never put sleep mode on
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if i went haswell this wouldnt really concern me, i never put sleep mode on

Exactly. It wouldn't bother me either or the countless others. Its just brought up my amd fans
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No point in being an early adopter for Haswell when USB3 is broken on it. Restarting every application after it wakes from sleep with USB3 stuff plugged in sounds fun. I'm sure Intel will sweep this under the rug like their Cougar Point issues and the fanboys will not care at all. Who cares if SATA performance degrades over time, I have bigger bars in benchmarks!

That's not really what I meant. If Haswell is good, everything else will drop in price naturally. Intel doesn't normally cut prices so you have to rely on clearance stuff like when the Sandy Bridges were discounted due to Ivy Bridge.

And if you have an SSD, Sleep is about as pointless as UAC Windows spam on CPU-Z.
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Is it Haswell the one that Intel is going to have soldered into the mobo?
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With a 500$ budget that you're willing to expand a bit if necessary, why wouldn't you consider a 3770k ? You could most certainly get the CPU and a very respectable board with that kind of coin. You wouldn't happen to live near a MC would you ? If that's not something you'd consider, I'd definitely go the 8320 route as opposed to the 8350. Just about everything I have read leads me to believe that the 8350 is not worth the price difference vs. the 8320. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was the general consensus.

The difference between the 3770k and the 8320/50 is absolutely worth the added cost, imo.
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Is it Haswell the one that Intel is going to have soldered into the mobo?
only in SFF for the desktop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)#Design
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Haswell is expected to launch in three major forms:[7]
(1) Desktop version (LGA1150 socket): Haswell-DT
(2) Mobile/Laptop version (PGA socket): Haswell-MB
(3) BGA version:
(a) 47W and 57W TDP classes: Haswell-H (For "All-in-one" systems, Mini-ITX form factor motherboards, and other small footprint formats.)

(b) 13.5W and 15W TDP classes (SoC): Haswell-ULT (For Intel's UltraBook platform.)
(c) 10W TDP class (SoC): Haswell-ULX (For tablets and certain UltraBook-class implementations.)
NOTE:
ULT = Ultra Low TDP; ULX = Ultra Low eXtreme TDP.
Only certain BGA versions will receive GT3 integrated graphics. All other models will get GT2 (Intel HD 4600) integrated graphics.
Due to low power requirements of tablet and UltraBook platforms, Haswell-ULT and Haswell-ULX will only be available in dual-core. All other versions will be available in dual- or quad-core variants.

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I own a FX-8350, and coming from an Phenom II 1055T. The last Intel I used was a pentium4 HT, so I don't have a good comparison other than mom's laptop... I livestream often on twitch.tv with OpenBroadcaster (free "clone" of Xsplit) and I have no issues with CPU load destroying the FPS or stream. this CPU stays usable at 100% load, If I ran water I would forget when I'm folding. The Piledriver (FX-8000) works wonderfully well for encoding.

edit: fixed typos.
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I had a 3570k... it was awful at overclocking... And i must say it's a really boring chip. You overclock through multiplier, throw volts at it and see how high it goes. Mine ended at 4.6 GHz @ 1.36v, even at 1.45v I couldn't get 4.7GHz stable. And as such I even delidded the darn thing, it still sucked... topped at 4.6 ghz.
I was running it on Asrock z77 Extreme 4, 10+2+2 phases, don't think it makes much of a difference...

On the 8350 on the other hand. I overclock through multiplier, can only get 4.7ghz stable no matter how many volts I throw at it. Mixture of bus x multi I am now running 5Ghz and can probably go further if my ambient drops a bit.

Anyway I personally feel the 8350 feels much smoother than the 3570k and I had alot more fun playing with it.
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I had a 3570k... it was awful at overclocking... And i must say it's a really boring chip. You overclock through multiplier, throw volts at it and see how high it goes. Mine ended at 4.6 GHz @ 1.36v, even at 1.45v I couldn't get 4.7GHz stable. And as such I even delidded the darn thing, it still sucked... topped at 4.6 ghz.
I was running it on Asrock z77 Extreme 4, 10+2+2 phases, don't think it makes much of a difference...

On the 8350 on the other hand. I overclock through multiplier, can only get 4.7ghz stable no matter how many volts I throw at it. Mixture of bus x multi I am now running 5Ghz and can probably go further if my ambient drops a bit.

Anyway I personally feel the 8350 feels much smoother than the 3570k and I had alot more fun playing with it.

Bad choice of a board, the extreme4 is infamous for its dpak mosfets and voltage misreading issues. I wouldn't judge the chip based on your experience of running it on that board.
 
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