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I need to figure out practical differences between MX Brown and MX Red. I do use my keyboard to type a fair amount, but not like full-time for work. Mostly occasional work from home which uses some coding, posting on forums, and random document typing. Would my hands get tired typing on MX Red switches? This is the reason I'm going with MX Browns--they seem to be the safest. However, when I was at PAX East this weekend, I tested every keyboard I could find set up by various vendors, and MX Reds seemed the smoothest-easiest to press. I have long thin fingers and not so much strong thick hands, so MX Blacks were very uncomfortable, for reference. MX Blues are just far too loud and odd for me. MX Browns felt a bit stiff too, but not too bad. I don't need a soft chicklet keyboard per ce, but for example I absolutely adored how soft and comfortable Logitech K800 keyboard felt when I tried it at Staples (not mechanical, very soft comfortable keypresses).

How about a situation where I need to press a button in a game repeatedly and very quickly, like waiting for an action to become available (I know, I could use Autohotkey or at worst bind mouse scroll wheel with a modifier for that, but sometimes it's still necessary to tap very quickly)--would my finger get tired doing so with an MX Brown keyboard vs MX Red?

 

MX-Reds vs MX-Browns will make very little difference typing unless you learn to feel the tactile point on the browns so you do not fully depress the switch but instead release right after you overtake the tactile point. 

 

Like wise, for double tapping; the difference will be virtually nil. Technically the MX-Red is a bit "faster" in the point at which you could double tap, but you'd have to be super human to take advantage of that to a reasonable degree. 

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As far as the quiet factor--would this Logitech G710+ with preinstalled O-rings be quieter than an average MX Red keyboard? I know all mechanical keyboards are not quiet in the conventional sense of the word. I guess at this point, given your explanation, I should just go for whichever one is cheaper (and the Logitech one just happens to be Brown).
   
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As far as the quiet factor--would this Logitech G710+ with preinstalled O-rings be quieter than an average MX Red keyboard? I know all mechanical keyboards are not quiet in the conventional sense of the word. I guess at this point, given your explanation, I should just go for whichever one is cheaper (and the Logitech one just happens to be Brown).

 

Depends on the MX-Red board, Corsair's Vengeance K-Series boards; I would say, is on par with the Logitech. Logitech definitely has the added value of being fully backlit & mechanical. As well as all of the additional features. 

 

On the other hand, the MX-Red Leopold, Filco, & Ducky boards are louder than the Corsair though. It's not a huge margin, but it is something that the O-Rings would help with. 

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I think technically, if you press a key down slowly just to hear the sound, a brown will be tinnyyy bit louder. But it's like the faster double-tap. Gotta be super human. Different brand/model will have a much larger effect IMO.
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I have to ask why the K90 is not on here.
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MX-Reds vs MX-Browns will make very little difference typing unless you learn to feel the tactile point on the browns so you do not fully depress the switch but instead release right after you overtake the tactile point. 

Like wise, for double tapping; the difference will be virtually nil. Technically the MX-Red is a bit "faster" in the point at which you could double tap, but you'd have to be super human to take advantage of that to a reasonable degree. 

I feel like it's easier to double-tap and make accidental key presses when typing fast on the reds.
Edited by Caples - 3/25/13 at 11:55pm
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I'd like to recommend both the Razer Blackwidow Stealth original and the 2013 Stealth. They're both excellent keyboards with solid build quality.

Before I get laughed at from those that have never used either of these or dismiss them as a gaming, fanboi, or "douche" keyboard, they are nicer than the G710+ and the DAS Pro I've had. They also have 5 macro keys which I use for passwords and other basic operations. While Synapse sounds intrusive, an exception can be created to limit or cut off connection while retaining full functionality of the keyboard. The key tops are slightly larger than both G710+ and the DAS Pro and have slightly less of a ridge. While this is touted as a gaming keyboard from Razer, it's just as good writing code or an essay as any other. There's no backlighting on the Stealth model line but anyone looking for a mechanical keyboard has probably been touch typing for some time. Another thing, the glowing Razer logo can be disabled via Synapse or removed and replaced with another LED.

The G710+ keys are looser and are considerably louder than the Razer, not from the switch but from the side to side movement of the keys. I've had two of these boards and they both felt the same. They have inconsistent backlights as well, only on the top letter row though.

The first DAS Pro I had came to me with a body that was either broken or poorly aligned. The keys also had excessive side to side movement, like the G710+ but not as much. The click of the spacebar and larger keys was inconsistent if pressed on different parts of the key on both the original and the replacement I received. It also lacks macro capability.
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After doing a whole lot of reading and watching Youtube videos, I was about to get a Logitech G710+ for $97, but then I found a $60 AR deal on a CM Storm Trigger keyboard with MX Browns and ordered a pack of O-rings from Amazon for sound dampening. I will report back with impressions when the keyboard arrives, and I can only hope it's not going to be problematic (apparently some complain of sticky larger keys, like the enter key--and also the mini USB connector seems to be fragile. Plus the Trigger key remapping to Windows key issues. But ya, I'm willing to test it out for $60). The red LED backlit keys and overall appearance won me over in the end.
   
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Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 Stealth

Didn't you just say in the mechanical keyboard club thread that your "end" key was broken and they weren't responding to your emails?
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EVGA SuperNOVA 750W Modular Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower Logitech G502 Proteus Core Corsair Vengeance MM200 
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