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But I dont want to have it at 4.3Ghz. Its very low for me. I'd rather have it high volts.

Where I still dont see LLC under by Bios. I am pretty confident about it. I have looked everywhere atleast 20 times frown.gif
Can you send me a screenshot or let me know under which menu you found the LLC? BTW I have the Rev 1.3 of this motherboard. I guess you have 1.0 ? I recently flashed the bios to UEFI and I think you have a native bios (AWARD)

I've got Rev 1.3, and i didnt upgrade to UEFI (it's a nice touch but what's the point imo?), LLC is labeled as Multi-Steps Load Line, you should find it in the Voltage Settings Menu, and it should give you options of Levels 1-10.

May i ask how high you actually want your OC? 4.3Ghz on the 'Normal' Voltage was as good as i could get where i can safely say it's stable. Even when i used a fixed voltage up to 1.4v, disabled all states and turned on LLC i couldnt boot into Windows over 4.3Ghz, which is a full 1Ghz OC and is enough anyway so im fine with that.


But as we all know, Overclocking is really luck of the draw, and if you're fortunate enough to have a "golden chip" you might get some really good numbers.

EDIT:
I opened a thread some time ago when i was first attempting to OC my 2500k and had some photos of the BIOS settings (http://www.overclock.net/t/1345852/help-a-noob-oc-their-2500k/0_30)
I'm no longer using the settings in this pic however, but that's what the menu looks like:

Edited by PoisonousRakija - 3/24/13 at 4:02am
   
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I've got Rev 1.3, and i didnt upgrade to UEFI (it's a nice touch but what's the point imo?), LLC is labeled as Multi-Steps Load Line, you should find it in the Voltage Settings Menu, and it should give you options of Levels 1-10.

May i ask how high you actually want your OC? 4.3Ghz on the 'Normal' Voltage was as good as i could get where i can safely say it's stable. Even when i used a fixed voltage up to 1.4v, disabled all states and turned on LLC i couldnt boot into Windows over 4.3Ghz, which is a full 1Ghz OC and is enough anyway so im fine with that.


But as we all know, Overclocking is really luck of the draw, and if you're fortunate enough to have a "golden chip" you might get some really good numbers.

EDIT:
I opened a thread some time ago when i was first attempting to OC my 2500k and had some photos of the BIOS settings (http://www.overclock.net/t/1345852/help-a-noob-oc-their-2500k/0_30)
I'm no longer using the settings in this pic however, but that's what the menu looks like:

I know that LLC was there but I had it when my bios was normal (Award). After I updated by bios to UEFI, I lost that option. I did that twice but still no luck.

I have already overclocked my CPU to 4.6Ghz at 1.38 volts (+0.005 offset) and CPU PLL overvoltage enabled. I tried for 4.7 but that is not stable even with +0.0020. So I decided not to bother and stay with 4.6 as its a good OC. I actually wanted to have it in the 4.7 - 4.8 range but that's ok as you said, all chips are different. It might even be my motherboard as well as our's is a mid end board.

I also have a strange feeling about the CPU voltage.

1. CPUZ shows as 1.044 which is actually VTT as per the Gigabyte Utility (Easy Tune 6)
2. Core Temp shows 1.3861 and jumps to 1.41 while running IBT (this is shows as VID on Core Temp but the value is not displayed on Easy Tune 6)
3. Hardware Monitor shows the same as CPUZ
4. Easy Tune 6 (By Gigabyte) shows the Vcore as 1.368 volts on load (IBT). I think this is the accurate voltage as its clearly shows as Vcore and Easy Tune 6 is a Gigabyte utility and as is our Motherboard. But I am not sure. Any ideas buddy? frown.gif
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I know that LLC was there but I had it when my bios was normal (Award). After I updated by bios to UEFI, I lost that option. I did that twice but still no luck.

I have already overclocked my CPU to 4.6Ghz at 1.38 volts (+0.005 offset) and CPU PLL overvoltage enabled. I tried for 4.7 but that is not stable even with +0.0020. So I decided not to bother and stay with 4.6 as its a good OC. I actually wanted to have it in the 4.7 - 4.8 range but that's ok as you said, all chips are different. It might even be my motherboard as well as our's is a mid end board.

I also have a strange feeling about the CPU voltage.

1. CPUZ shows as 1.044 which is actually VTT as per the Gigabyte Utility (Easy Tune 6)
2. Core Temp shows 1.3861 and jumps to 1.41 while running IBT (this is shows as VID on Core Temp but the value is not displayed on Easy Tune 6)
3. Hardware Monitor shows the same as CPUZ
4. Easy Tune 6 (By Gigabyte) shows the Vcore as 1.368 volts on load (IBT). I think this is the accurate voltage as its clearly shows as Vcore and Easy Tune 6 is a Gigabyte utility and as is our Motherboard. But I am not sure. Any ideas buddy? frown.gif

It's a pretty decent board ill agree, it's got some good features and good stuff for OC'ing, but in the end it probably comes down to the chip more, seeing as you're getting 4.6Ghz out of it with the same chip and i'm getting 4.3Ghz. Maybe the BIOS impacts on it too, i dont know, but im happy with the normal award bios. thumb.gif

Anyway,
CPU-Z reports 1.044v for me always, i find AIDA64 and CPUID HwMonitor are accurate in showing the actual VCore.
Run them both at the same time and stress the CPU through Max on IBT for 10 - 20 iterations, make sure your results are coming out identical with the -002 at the end
If you find it unstable try double checking or changing your settings, try running 'Normal' VCore and 47x multiplier too, if it's stable, record what voltage you get from it in IBT.

Ive only used a couple UEFI Mobos and im not sure what they've done with the one on our board and couldn't see a reason why i should update to it.
In the manual for Rev 1.3 it shows the normal bios so im not sure, i have the latest bios before the UEFI update.
Edited by PoisonousRakija - 3/24/13 at 7:00am
   
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It's a pretty decent board ill agree, it's got some good features and good stuff for OC'ing, but in the end it probably comes down to the chip more, seeing as you're getting 4.6Ghz out of it with the same chip and i'm getting 4.3Ghz. Maybe the BIOS impacts on it too, i dont know, but im happy with the normal award bios. thumb.gif

Anyway,
CPU-Z reports 1.044v for me always, i find AIDA64 and CPUID HwMonitor are accurate in showing the actual VCore.
Run them both at the same time and stress the CPU through Max on IBT for 10 - 20 iterations, make sure your results are coming out identical with the -002 at the end
If you find it unstable try double checking or changing your settings, try running 'Normal' VCore and 47x multiplier too, if it's stable, record what voltage you get from it in IBT.

Ive only used a couple UEFI Mobos and im not sure what they've done with the one on our board and couldn't see a reason why i should update to it.
In the manual for Rev 1.3 it shows the normal bios so im not sure, i have the latest bios before the UEFI update.

HwMonitor was not accurate as it showed the same voltages as CPUZ which was very low. But AIDA64 was pretty accurate I guess because the voltages match the ones that are reported on Easy Tune 6. 1.368 volts @ 4.6 Ghz which means I can try and overclock a bit more. Probably shoot for 4.8. What say buddy? But I will do it after I get my new thermal paste. The one that I am currently using with my H100i is a basic CM thermal paste. I have ordered for a high end Cooler Master extreme fusion X1 thermal paste. Heard that it beats all the silver based TIM's currently available. It is displayed on their website. I can probably get 2-5 degrees better with the new TIM and some pull fans. I would also be ordering two Corsair SP High Performance fans as Pull fans for my H100i. smile.gif

Gigabyte actually released two UEFI bioses. The first one was in 2012 U1d but today after I checked it again there was a new bios U1e (no changes mentioned). I updated to that in the morning (still no LLC) The only difference I could see is the boot up logo.
Edited by irfanrafeeq88 - 3/24/13 at 8:09am
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If you can get it stable then go for it, voltage seems decent. Is it 'normal' or did you set it manually? make sure youre stable at 4.6 before you go higher but. also do you have xmp enabled?

edit: unless youre using toothpaste thermal paste doesnt make too much difference. They say artic silver is the greatest thing since popcorn, but ive been using deepcool ($7 stuff tongue.gif) for years, i ran out last time i removed the heatsink for cleaning so i put the thermaltake stock paste, same stuff lol. Id put the money to the cooler rather than the paste smile.gif but i reckon ibt is giving you temps into the high 70's C with that oc, it is for me lol. if you can shave off some of that heat then by all means do it.
Edited by PoisonousRakija - 3/24/13 at 9:39am
   
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If you can get it stable then go for it, voltage seems decent. Is it 'normal' or did you set it manually? make sure youre stable at 4.6 before you go higher but. also do you have xmp enabled?

edit: unless youre using toothpaste thermal paste doesnt make too much difference. They say artic silver is the greatest thing since popcorn, but ive been using deepcool ($7 stuff tongue.gif) for years, i ran out last time i removed the heatsink for cleaning so i put the thermaltake stock paste, same stuff lol. Id put the money to the cooler rather than the paste smile.gif but i reckon ibt is giving you temps into the high 70's C with that oc, it is for me lol. if you can shave off some of that heat then by all means do it.

This is on Offset voltage and its super stable @ 4.6 Ghz. I will try overclocking higher once I get the fans and the TIM. will report back later. Yes, I have XMP enabled.
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This is on Offset voltage and its super stable @ 4.6 Ghz. I will try overclocking higher once I get the fans and the TIM. will report back later. Yes, I have XMP enabled.

Fair enough, i asked because when you enable it (on award bios) it surprises you with a popup asking "Do you want to enhance CPU Performance?" where you're put on the spot to chose Yes or No and you can't revert back or change it unless you clear your BIOS settings. I cant remember what i chose but i think i chose 'No' because i didn't want anything to get in the way of my Overclock.

I've read enabling it "overclocks" the L3 Cache but many are reporting overheating because of it? Not really sure how much real life performance it will give however.
I see no temp difference OC or not in my setup.

Edit: Just ran with it enabled, same temps and VCore being reported, 4.3Ghz, 1.34v, 72c Max, IBT Max for 10 passes.
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Wish you best of luck mate!


My i7-2600k requires 1.430v in bios to have a fully legitimate stable overclock with a droop and no rise whatsoever

on my old motherboard it required much less but beggars cant be choosers frown.gif no new chip anytime soon for me, and not sure I want the board im on again if i ever do upgrade
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Is your case clean
sure is, but i dont think dust in my case would affect my watercooled cpu's voltage requirement biggrin.gif
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