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This is not about "AMD is better roflzxtrololo" This is about AMD having all of the contracts for the next-gen consoles, and that coding specifically for their GPU's could lead to performance issues of PC ports.
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They’re going to be stretched. I would bet we see more big titles where final code only reaches Nvidia’s driver team a few days before launch. That could then lead to a greater stratification in PC gaming, with Nvidia card owners having to wait for games to run on their hardware or suffering from titles coded to take advantage of the greater compute power of AMD cards.

Such things may sound familiar to older AMD/ATI card owners…

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AMD getting back into the marketing game...

They have suffered from the 'lololo nvidia haz better graph0rz hurr' from the masses for long enough, about time they sorted their stuff and started biting them back.

I am a bit bothered by the fact that it says 'Of course, loads of games have had dreadful launches, marred by server problems and driver/graphics card issues'.
It is not AMD's issue here (as the article is trying to blame), it is nVIDIA's drivers problem.
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Woah...that's actually very interesting. I hadn't even thought about the fact that AMD GPUs will be used in the new consoles.

Good thing I myself have an AMD GPU I guess.
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i always believed both were as good.. it's just nvidia drew more attention and had mode games coded their way.
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It is quite ironic now that the shoe is on the other foot. AMD had these same issues with nvidia marketed games, in which they were basically locked out of development.

Hopefully they don't follow the trend that NV started, where they attempted to block features out of competing hardware and lock AMD out of development. If AMD does the same as retribution (and make no mistake, nvidia definitely did this) it would not be good for PC gamers. It wasn't good when nvidia did it, and it won't be good if AMD does the same.

Look at it this way. Is it ever good for a developer and PC gaming as a whole if 50-60% of the userbase doesn't get a stable, crash free game? One of the worst aspects of Tomb Raider is that it isn't stable on nvidia GTX 600 cards when tessellation is enabled. I think this is not excusable on the part of Crystal Dynamics - they should have playtested this. Now I can live with performance differences between AMD and nvidia, but I think that when half of the PC gamer playerbase gets a stable stable game - and the other half doesn't....something is wrong. I don't blame AMD for this, I really think Square Enix and Crystal Dynamics should have playtested their game more. Even if it meant pushing back the release of the PC version a few days.

I hope AMD is genuine when they state they're not trying to create fragmentation. Even though I love nvidia, I feel like they attempted heavily to create fragmentation by implementing features that didn't work correctly on AMD cards with their TWIMTBP games. I certainly hope AMD doesn't do the same - we all love PC gaming and we should all get a playable experience, whether we have AMD or nvidia.
Edited by xoleras - 3/9/13 at 6:56am
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Hmm you do make a good point. I just switched to ATI and I'm hoping I can handle PS4 ports. thumb.gif
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Why oh why did I get a GTX 670? Back then it was the best price per performance card and now it is going down. And I want that to last me for about 2 more years.
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For years AMD suffered form exactly the same thing that's happening to Nvidia now. Despite this AMD did fine and I'm sure that Nvidia will do equally fine in the future. The fact that the upcoming consoles will have AMD hardware is a moot point as they don't really have drivers in the same way to begin with and in a few years AMD's discrete GPU's will be just as different form the console GPU's as Nvidias offerings. Its called progress. It happens with PC hardware.
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Good job AMD! thumb.gif
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While I agree it will be easier for AMD to deal with console ports, it's important to notice that game developers will want their games running well in Nvidia hardware just as much as Nvidia, they want to sell as many units as possible so why would them alienate about half the pc gamers out there?
This Tomb Raider issue is being blown to hell and back IMO, anyone that play the game will agree that tressFX is buggy to say the least, seemed like a rush job as they wanted it to launch with the game. Nvidia's driver team got the final coding at the last minute (that's what nvidia is telling everyone and Crystal Dynamics has yet to say otherwise), sure it was a messy launch but that doesn't mean it will be the new law of the land. It's too early to tell.
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