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i always believed both were as good.. it's just nvidia drew more attention and had mode games coded their way.

this, it's hilarious seeing OCN users get mad at AMD for Tomb Raider when they conveniently had no issues with all the games with nerfed performance on AMD. This time it's affecting the green team which is the majority
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Nvidia decided to focus their strength on tegra 4 and it seems like they did a great job because it beats the Snapdragon 600. They're giving AMD too much room to improve which will only hurt them in the end.
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As long as AMD doesn't do anything to actively prevent games running (well) on Nvidia hardware. I see nothing wrong with this.

Business is business I guess.

nVidia already did this. It's called PhysX.
   
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Im not having any issues running the game on my gtx 570, hasnt crashed once.
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post #35 of 116
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Originally Posted by Atham View Post

The only issue that I see here is that the people running Kepler GPUs might get crippled performance in games due to the optimization for AMD (I am leaving out the worse performance in compute aside). Is this bound to happen in the future?

I think this is less of an issue than people are making it out to be. A number of AMD backed titles over the years have actually seen better performance from NVidia cards. AMD has done a pretty good job about keeping optimizations open.

In the case of Tomb Raider part of the issue with performance there is NOT about the code but rather a choice made by nVidia. Tomb Raider and a number of newer games are making more use of Directcompute, something NVidia has pretty much ignored. In fact the 600 series is actually slower than the 500 series when it comes to GPU Compute horsepower.

AMD made this new architecture with the whole Directcompute system in mind and it is starting to show. This is not about NVidia getting code in time or proprietary technology, this is about nVidia not staying on top of the open codes and focusing only on their in house efforts.
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7k at launch. They'll charge more if they can get away with it.

they were competing the 580 and it was if i remember around ~425 dollars still, so it's nvidia's fault the 7970 was so expensive.
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I think this is less of an issue than people are making it out to be. A number of AMD backed titles over the years have actually seen better performance from NVidia cards. AMD has done a pretty good job about keeping optimizations open.

In the case of Tomb Raider part of the issue with performance there is NOT about the code but rather a choice made by nVidia. Tomb Raider and a number of newer games are making more use of Directcompute, something NVidia has pretty much ignored. In fact the 600 series is actually slower than the 500 series when it comes to GPU Compute horsepower.

AMD made this new architecture with the whole Directcompute system in mind and it is starting to show. This is not about NVidia getting code in time or proprietary technology, this is about nVidia not staying on top of the open codes and focusing only on their in house efforts.

Nividia's GPUs' computing performance have been usually weaker than AMD. There's a reason why experienced Bitcoin miners use AMD cards for the job.
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7k at launch. They'll charge more if they can get away with it.

they were competing the 580 and it was if i remember around ~425 dollars still, so it's nvidia's fault the 7970 was so expensive.
*****, keep telling yourself that, guess it was amds fault that the 580 was so expensive since nvidia was competing with the 6970 and it was $350+
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I'm a die hard Tomb Raider fan but I'm not buying it until it's fixed, bottom line the game developer suffers because I'm not switching to AMD over this, lol
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*****, keep telling yourself that, guess it was amds fault that the 580 was so expensive since nvidia was competing with the 6970 and it was $350+

the 6970 came out after the 580 and was priced accordingly, so ya....
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