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Hi,
yes i meant old cpu heatsink. But like i said it might need some cutting which could be problem (obviously u cant cut it with hands so u might need some tools or simple saw for metal could do)


1. no need to start game over just load where u saved (u can always run 3dmark to see what gains u got from OC even though alot of ppl like real game performance over synthetic)
2. yes, its perfectly fine to do it on the fly just alt tab change clocks and alt tab back in game.

About testing u re graphics card a good demanding game will do just fine or u can run some 3dmark11 loop test or FurMark

Heres short thread here on OCN http://www.overclock.net/t/1123516/graphic-card-stability-test

About pushing it to limits well unless u re changing voltage u should be fine just push that 6670 until u start seeing artifacts if that happens just bring down clocks until its gone. No dmg is done its similar to CPU or RAM when u go to far it just just doesnt work properly until u either reduce clocks or add some more voltage for stability. Where exactly are u re limits on 6670 thats what u have to find out. I have seen 850 stable for gpu as for video memory well i dont even know if u got 6670 ddr3 or ddr5 card.

Hope it helps, good luck.
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You should try to see if you can run at 4.3ghz at that voltage. Not that it makes a big difference but my a10 is at 4.3ghz, 1.3625v. I can push it higher with more voltage but I, like you, do not have an overclocker's Mobo. Also...once you push the voltage higher than spec, you will notice alot of throttling under load....from what Ive read its not something you can turn off in the bios, so with these chips its really hard to justify overvolting to get higher clocks when the end result is less performance under heavy multithreaded loads.
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You should try to see if you can run at 4.3ghz at that voltage. Not that it makes a big difference but my a10 is at 4.3ghz, 1.3625v. I can push it higher with more voltage but I, like you, do not have an overclocker's Mobo. Also...once you push the voltage higher than spec, you will notice alot of throttling under load....from what Ive read its not something you can turn off in the bios, so with these chips its really hard to justify overvolting to get higher clocks when the end result is less performance under heavy multithreaded loads.

I just tried it again and unfortunately my chip cannot be set above 4.2GHz without raising the voltage.
Oh well, I guess I'll leave it at a forced 4.2GHz.

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Originally Posted by zvrk22 View Post

Hi,
yes i meant old cpu heatsink. But like i said it might need some cutting which could be problem (obviously u cant cut it with hands so u might need some tools or simple saw for metal could do)


1. no need to start game over just load where u saved (u can always run 3dmark to see what gains u got from OC even though alot of ppl like real game performance over synthetic)
2. yes, its perfectly fine to do it on the fly just alt tab change clocks and alt tab back in game.

About testing u re graphics card a good demanding game will do just fine or u can run some 3dmark11 loop test or FurMark

Heres short thread here on OCN http://www.overclock.net/t/1123516/graphic-card-stability-test

About pushing it to limits well unless u re changing voltage u should be fine just push that 6670 until u start seeing artifacts if that happens just bring down clocks until its gone. No dmg is done its similar to CPU or RAM when u go to far it just just doesnt work properly until u either reduce clocks or add some more voltage for stability. Where exactly are u re limits on 6670 thats what u have to find out. I have seen 850 stable for gpu as for video memory well i dont even know if u got 6670 ddr3 or ddr5 card.

Hope it helps, good luck.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1123516/graphic-card-stability-test

Hey nice, thanks. I am downloading Heaven right now.

Also, the card is just the crappy DDR3 version. Didn't want to spend much on this pc, I just wanted to overclock it to get my feet wet.
I will report back how the GPU manipulation goes.
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So I did a bunch of testing it out and I get my best 3dMark score when I have the processor on auto and the the Memory and Core of the 6670 DDR3 set to 840MHz each.
840/840 = P2764
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6172460

Crysis Warhead crashes if the Memory Clock is >840.
If I set the Core Clock up at 850, it still runs good in Warhead, but my 3dMark score goes down to a dismal ~2000.

I also can't understand the APU overclocking. I don't get why, if I change the settings to manually hold at 4.2GHz, my 3dMark score drops to ~2100. But if I set it on auto, I get my best scores as shown belowj.
What is going on?

Also, it doesn't seem to make much difference in 3dMark what my 6670 Clocks are set at, check it out....

800/800 = P2737
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6149260

850/840 = P2729
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6172360

840/840 = P2764
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6172460

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Ty for info.

If u re crysis fails when u OC to 850 im afraid u re card just cant cut it any higer than those 840 so keep it at 840. I guess u found u re limit.(atlease at stock voltage)

Also u can see that 850 isnt stable in 3dmark aswell cuz it scores less than on 840.

Keep in mind though going from 800 to 840 im ONLY 5% u cant expect scores to go up 10,15 or 20 % so i think it looks good.

Did u try to oc u re iGPU by any chance(gfx engine clock)? Its stock speed is 800 but goes up to well not everyone is same but from 950 to 1.1 GHz

Thx again for testing and posting results back. rep+
Edited by zvrk22 - 3/13/13 at 5:41am
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Did u try to oc u re iGPU by any chance(gfx engine clock)? Its stock speed is 800 but goes up to well not everyone is same but from 950 to 1.1 GHz
Thx again for testing and posting results back. rep+

After reading the comments (~19 comments from the top) here " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k2znvfyfUs " I did try adjusting the GFX Engine Clock to 1013MHz but my 3dMark score dropped dramatically so I got scared and put it back to auto lol. If anyone can offer suggestions for specific bios settings to use to raise the GFX Engine Clock I am more than willing to try it out some more.

I just wasn't sure what I was doing and was afraid I would fry something redface.gif

Edit: Like which voltage should I raise when I set the GFX clock higher?
Edited by GarTheConquer - 3/13/13 at 10:25am
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1013 is a bit to hard to hit right from start. Not all chips are same.

CPU NB/GFX voltage is for igpu but i wouldnt touch this unless u apsolutely want to get little bit more. cuz messing with it 2 much can make it unstable even at stock clock

Try to increase it in smaller steps whatever multis dont skip, well ok maybe u can try to skip from 800 to 900ish but like i said some ppl couldnt get over 940 and some went to 1.1GHz

So "gfx clock"(800 stock) and "CPU NB/GFX voltage(1.1V stock)" hope u get something out of it.

Post us back results, good luck.
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the max stock voltage for the igpu on the a10 5800k is 1.275v. I would use that voltage for the NB/GFX and stick with it. By default the igpu voltage scales up and down not unlike coolnquiet and 1.275v is what it hits at full load. You can go with higher voltage but I wouldnt personally. I am running my IGPU at 1000mhz 1.275v. My 3dmark scores increased alot from the clock boost. Keep in mind Im not using a dual gpu setup like you and my score was alot less than yours. Maybe try 900...950...1000...1050 see how far you can go.
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Thank you, I will follow your advice on the voltage next time I have some time with the pc.

I would like to start folding on this pc as I am not around it all that much.
I guess I should ask this in the folding forum, but is it okay to have the iGPU clocked to 1.275 and the 6670 at 840/840 while folding 24/7?
I'd imagine it is...
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I'm back with another update.

I have found my best, stable results with the iGFX set at 894MHz (BIOS goes in steps of 760, 800, 844, 894, 950, 1013, 1085 etc.) and everything else in BIOS set to auto with Core C6 Mode, Cool 'n' Quiet, SVM Enabled and CPU Thermal Throttle Disabled.

So my final setup is as seen in the picture below and the 6670 clocks set at 840/840.

And here is the 3dMark11 of the setup. It appears stable as I played an hour of Crysis Warhead for over an hour on lowest resolution, with highest settings other than motion blur which I can't stand. I also ran Prime 95 for 70min and 3 loops of the Crysis Warhead Benchmarking Tool. I will do a longer run tonight and report back.


This is the P2813 score sheet.

Now it's time for some folding! wheee.gif




Edit: I just want to make a note that RAM clock make a HUGE difference in speed with the a10 CPU. With my RAM set at 1333 in BIOS I only got a 3dMark score of P2196.
My Physics Score was actually slighly higher, but the Graphics Score was dismal in comparison.
Edited by GarTheConquer - 3/18/13 at 11:05am
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