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I traded my 2 512mb sticks of patriot RAM for my friend's 2 512mb sticks. I was only able to get the patriot up to 227 mhz. One of the new sticks is hynix d43 and the other is samsung tccc, both of which, I thought, were pretty good sticks of RAM. With the new sticks, I was able to get up to 240Mhz. I was hoping to get higher though. Yes, I know it's best not to mix different kinds of RAM, but they're both supposed to be decent chips, aren't they? I tried increasing the voltage up to 2.9v (I don't want to leave it at that permanently, because neither of them have heatspreaders) If you think that higher voltages would help, I can get some heatspreaders and active cooling and set it to 3.3v with a jumper setting. The timings are set at 3-4-4-8. should I loosen them? if so, what to? I would really like to get it to 250mhz so I can run it at a 1:1 divider. Any tips?
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3-4-4-8 is most likely as far as you want to go.
TCCD generally maxed at 2.85-2.9 so cooling wouldn't hurt.
There is still some very good 2x512s out there, seen quite a few in oru for sale section too.
The Crucial Ballistix DDR400/500 should do 260 w/ 2.5-3-4-8 2.9v for about $125/$140
    
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I have TCCC not TCCD. do they preform similarly, or is TCCD a lot better?
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Opps
TCCD then TCC5 than TCCD second gen... the original TCCDs OCed very well, the "5" and sg not quiet as well but good.
    
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Did transonic sell his sticks yet? They did very good. Mine did Ok, but I blame my northbridge
    
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according to this, there is a lot of RAM rated for DDR500 that uses either one of my chips. You'd think that I'd at least be able to hit 250mhz.

According to this review, the 2 different types of chips used in that RAM are the same ones I have, and they can do DDR500 at 2.6v! I can't do it at 2.9!

maybe those are handpicked chips. Does it really matter that I don't have heatspreaders? or is it because I'm mixing different chips?
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TCCD/TCC5 and D43 are not the same chip, no matter the rated speeds. They perform differently. As it is, The Hynix is considered "value memory", where the TCCD/TCC5 are not. I do not know about your Biostar mobo, but I have 2 LanParty and 2 Asus mobos running TCCD without a hitch. I will never run the Hynix on my LanParty mobos... it just doesn't work. The Asus is more tolerant of cheap memory.

Now, the fact that you are mixing 2 different types of mem chips/2 different mem sticks is another matter. You have no dual channel and since they are not a matched pair, their overclock ceilings, power consumption and temp characteristics are different. You will not get a decent oc out of them.

Also, watch out for high votage on the TCCD/TCC5. They don't like it.

Personally, I would have kept the Patriot.
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Opps
TCCD then TCC5 than TCCD second gen... the original TCCDs OCed very well, the "5" and sg not quiet as well but good.
Im not trying to hijack the thread but where do UCCC come in
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I can always get the patriot back if i want to. My friend doesn't care. But I was under the impression that you can run dual channel as long as they are the same size and speed.
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I can always get the patriot back if i want to. My friend doesn't care. But I was under the impression that you can run dual channel as long as they are the same size and speed.
And my impression is that it needs to be a matched set. I bet you could run dual channel with those 2 sticks, but I believe it will overclock like crap.
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