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What kind of mobile GPU does this run?

Where is the PSU?
    
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post #182 of 226
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What kind of mobile GPU does this run?

Where is the PSU?

Speculation has led most to believe that the GPU is an AMD 7660D.

It'll most likely use a laptop power brick for it's PSU. It's only 40W though, so the brick will likely be quite small.
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i guess the small size justifies the price in a way... There is nothing as strong this small on the market... rolleyes.gif
Likely this thing is not gonna sell that much and they stupid people with influence in gaming industry declare PC gaming dead
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i guess the small size justifies the price in a way... There is nothing as strong this small on the market... rolleyes.gif
Likely this thing is not gonna sell that much and they stupid people with influence in gaming industry declare PC gaming dead

I guess I'll have to put this here again since some people can't seem to read the thread rolleyes.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158033&Tpk=asrock%20visionx

Core i5 3210 + 7850M will trounce any AMD APU.
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I guess I'll have to put this here again since some people can't seem to read the thread rolleyes.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158033&Tpk=asrock%20visionx

Core i5 3210 + 7850M will trounce any AMD APU.

Yeah but if the Steambox runs a custom tailored linux, it might be tweaked for specific hardware in mind. So granted that's a slick deal, you don't know if Valve is going to do a full blown custom OS or just run a stripped X client with Steam alone.

Nice find though, that's a nice little piece of custom work. I should browse newegg more for stuff like that, just to see what's out.
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post #186 of 226
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Yeah but if the Steambox runs a custom tailored linux, it might be tweaked for specific hardware in mind. So granted that's a slick deal, you don't know if Valve is going to do a full blown custom OS or just run a stripped X client with Steam alone.

Nice find though, that's a nice little piece of custom work. I should browse newegg more for stuff like that, just to see what's out.

How are they going to tweak it so that it's better? The only things they can do is cut down OS RAM usage, but if I recall correctly, Linux is already pretty minimal, and it's got 8gb of RAM, which is more than enough. It still has to go through OpenGL, so any improvements made can be applied to OpenGL as a whole.

What you're basically saying is to somehow make it run bare metal like consoles do, but the games built to run on Linux are built to run on OpenGL. It requires that layer, and as such the performance will be the same as any other OpenGL system with the same hardware.

However, this isn't a Valve Steambox, and I do believe they'll be much more reasonable with the pricing. Xi3 I think is just trying to capitalize on being first, and a few early adopters will pay for that premium.
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meh, i made a more ballzy version with the A10 5800k in one of the smallest itx cases(isk100) for far less buck and its not like its that much larger volume wise
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Originally Posted by Tsumi View Post

I guess I'll have to put this here again since some people can't seem to read the thread rolleyes.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158033&Tpk=asrock%20visionx

Core i5 3210 + 7850M will trounce any AMD APU.

Yes but if you put it in a smaller case, at what price does it come?

Hint: Not cheap at all.

AMD's APUs are much more oriented towards space constrained platforms. The CPU+GPU is a single chip, as opposed to two.
   
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How are they going to tweak it so that it's better? The only things they can do is cut down OS RAM usage, but if I recall correctly, Linux is already pretty minimal, and it's got 8gb of RAM, which is more than enough. It still has to go through OpenGL, so any improvements made can be applied to OpenGL as a whole.

What you're basically saying is to somehow make it run bare metal like consoles do, but the games built to run on Linux are built to run on OpenGL. It requires that layer, and as such the performance will be the same as any other OpenGL system with the same hardware.

However, this isn't a Valve Steambox, and I do believe they'll be much more reasonable with the pricing. Xi3 I think is just trying to capitalize on being first, and a few early adopters will pay for that premium.

=( I don't think you understand. Even though OGL runs universally, their are plenty of ways to make a system machine specific. Kernel hacking, you can cut down a lot of overhead, which will probably be done as the Steambox has no use for most of the drivers (just example, their is a lot you can hack). If they did that, they could easily choose which CPU they want to use. It'll only run on that platform too, trust me I'm pretty sure I know a bit more as I don't have to recall. I run Linux daily. Compile with -02, the entire OS, then run it on a different box. Tell me what happens, I'm sure you'll be frustrated in the end. You don't need "bare metal" to get improvements, hence why people still prefer source based distributions.

Now I'm not saying they will, but it stands to reason if they want to have the platform hardware specific to ensure compatibility... Well they might as well optimize everything for that platform, which means you change that and it won't work. Trust me, or better yet visit this and ask our own forums if you can optimize a platform to run generic binary code but still be machine specific. The answer will be, yes.
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post #190 of 226
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Yeah but if the Steambox runs a custom tailored linux, it might be tweaked for specific hardware in mind. So granted that's a slick deal, you don't know if Valve is going to do a full blown custom OS or just run a stripped X client with Steam alone.

Nice find though, that's a nice little piece of custom work. I should browse newegg more for stuff like that, just to see what's out.

But...but...the Linux!!! rolleyes.gif

Who cares if it's tweaked? You can still only run games that have been ported over whereas the Asrock box, you can run anything on it.
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