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Define much?

Xi3 - 4.0- x 3.656- x 3.656-inches

ASRock - 7.87" x 7.87" x 2.76"

Lets see here, mathmatically that equals....

Xi3 - 53.465 cui

ASRock - 170.946 cui

Hmmm, the difference? Roughly 3 times the size. I don't consider something close on scale when it's over double the volume. So what your saying is, a device that's 3 times as large is roughly the same size as a device 3 times smaller.

I'm not going to say get an Xi3, I wouldn't. I just think that's a little odd.

In terms of absolute numbers, yes, there's a large difference.

In terms of relative to the fact that you can hold both in your hand, and the ASRock is actually thinner, which makes it more portable in backpacks and fits better with the form factors of other HTPC equipment.
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post #212 of 226
What in the heck is the point of this machine? So they're not releasing it as a steambox per se? Than it's just a small, underpowered and overpriced PC that likely won't even play Crysis 1 anywhere near max settings let alone the new one. The whole point of the "steambox" idea was to build a hybrid pc/console that game developers could write directly to the metal like a console, but be upgradeable albeit again in a standardized manner. Xi-3 ****ed up badly if they did something to piss Valve off and dissolve the relationship. They've got nothing here but $1000 paperweight if this thing is just a real small PC. I wouldn't pay $200 for that thing, seriously.
post #213 of 226
Just to put this in perspective, my laptop with an A10-4600m APU cost $600 brand new... that's a laptop with that APU, 6GB DDR3 1600mhz ram, 640GB HDD, a built-in keyboard and mouse, a 15.4" screen, DVD burner, and a battery that allows the thing to run between 5 and 7 hours on normal use.

What in the world does the Piston offer that my laptop doesn't? There isn't $400 in added value there. In fact, the HD 7660G graphics on the laptop is decent for an integrated GPU, but for flat-out gaming, it sucks.
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They show this DOA piece of crap to the public and yet there's not even a hint about HL3? I hope Gabe chokes on an egg roll.
    
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They can argue the value proposition, but to whom? The Xbox 360 and PS3 are better living room media boxes where 20 and 25% of all Netflix viewership happens on both consoles respectively and next-generation will include even more media functionality, have more powerful hardware, and cost anywhere from 2-3.5 less...or build a $1000 PC that will destroy this thing.
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there is a market for everything , lol look at the Ouya ... who wants a "thing" that connects to a TV ... to play phone games ? ... someone will lol
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In terms of absolute numbers, yes, there's a large difference.

In terms of relative to the fact that you can hold both in your hand, and the ASRock is actually thinner, which makes it more portable in backpacks and fits better with the form factors of other HTPC equipment.

When you get into smaller objects, you still have to compare equally. Some people can't hold a 7.X" object in their hand, in the sense that they are holding it "in their hand". They can hold it with one hand, yes but one device is drastically smaller than the next. By a volume of 300%, in the small world that makes a huge difference. Heck, I could give plenty of examples where size does matter and to say a 300% volume increase being "relative" is not really right. I'm sure their are areas that the ASRock does better as it's thinner (technically shorter, thin is too vague). The Xi3 is going to win in areas where a person has room for the extra height but not the width (that's what she said! OUCH!).
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When you get into smaller objects, you still have to compare equally. Some people can't hold a 7.X" object in their hand, in the sense that they are holding it "in their hand". They can hold it with one hand, yes but one device is drastically smaller than the next. By a volume of 300%, in the small world that makes a huge difference. Heck, I could give plenty of examples where size does matter and to say a 300% volume increase being "relative" is not really right. I'm sure their are areas that the ASRock does better as it's thinner (technically shorter, thin is too vague). The Xi3 is going to win in areas where a person has room for the extra height but not the width (that's what she said! OUCH!).

So you pay a high price premium because you can fit it in areas where there is not a lot of horizontal space? How about you rearrange your living room, buy a PS4, and save yourself $600? I think most consumers are going to think along those lines.

The Xi3 is not going to win in any areas. Anyone who doesn't know better is going to stay away due to sheer sticker shock. Why buy this when you can probably buy TWO PS4s for the same price? Anyone who knows better is going to stay away because they recognize there is no value to be had here. This machine is useless. Mini ITX is more than small enough to be ultra portable and you can build a hell of a lot better machine than this for $1000. And as said before, a laptop is more practical for portability, and will outperform this machine for less.
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post #219 of 226
IF you dont have room for a decent size computer ... you probably shouldn't be looking into spending 1k on a "steambox" LOL , or if you are a hobbit . this "steambox" will be the size of a washing machine lol


... isnt this "box" can play PC games ? , i saw a video playing Tomb Rider ... very choppy . Maybe they will market it as a PC , more than a console ? that will give a edge over the consoles , and to battle the custom PCs , they will pull the "we are smaller" card
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post #220 of 226
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there is a market for everything , lol look at the Ouya ... who wants a "thing" that connects to a TV ... to play phone games ? ... someone will lol

Casual games are the most popular right now.

Also, have you seen some of the games it can play? I doubt you would be calling them phone games.
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