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Hey Everyone.

I am building what is suppose to be my dream computer build. I have been building computers since 16 years old, when I got my First 3dfx, I saved up money for 4 months delivering pizza to get it. I've built at least 50 gaming computers since, but they were always reasonable, Never latest and greatest. Always what ever got the best bang for the buck, I always bought the best before the price junp.

Now being 32 years old, making decent money, no family but wanting one. I decided to really give probably my last super computer build (also my first) A go for it.


I've already bought a majority of parts. Keep in mind that I got on the 7970 Band wagon to late. I had to settle for me 3rd choice.

Corsair 800D

Asus Maximus Formula V
I7 3770k 4.6
2 MSI 7970 OC'd
16gb ballistix 1866

Corsair AX1200i, (disapointement)

2 FC 7970 acrylic CSQ copper blocks
2 FC backplates
EK acrylic Serial Bridge
EK supremacy acrylic CSQ copper
MCP 655-b
Hardware labs SR1 360
Corsair SP120 HIgh Performance (3 on rad pulling out the top, 1 on back intake, 1 on lower hdd side)
FrozenQ Dual Bay (replaced UV red with Pastel red for red color, want to replace RES)
PrimoChill 3/8 X 5/8
Monsoon Compression fittings
2 monsoon 90 fittings
Koolance 5 way COnfigured as straight through with a Drain down, on the down about 3 inches a Koolance Ball valve.

i7 4.6 Have pushed it 5.2 but for now 4.6
Idle CPU 85F.. With AC on down to 75F
Full Load Prime 95 MAX heat 120F playing games most i've seen is 105F


GPU 1050 Core 1500 mem
idle GPU 30C
Full Load 2560 x 1440p 8xMSAA Crysis Bloops, Heaven 4, Furmark, 40C at the most. Maybe42 after a few hours.


Looop config. Dual Bay Res with MCP655 attached to the back with Custom top. Pumps up into a Monsoon 90degree fitting, with a 6 inch tube to the Radiator, out of the radiator I have a phyoba inline temp, Than to the CPU about 14 Inches of 3/8 Tubing. From the CPU about 10 inches of tube in a horshoe to the Asus Thermo Motherboard. out of the motherboard 6 Inch striaght shot to a monsoon 90 in the top of the GPU bridge. Brdige is in serial. Exit the GPU 8 inches is the 5way with drain and ball valve. I do have some extra tube here that goes up to the top of the Resevoir I'd say its about 14 inches, its not straight it does go up some than over.. I use to return to the bottom right. But I added a Temp plug and the top left is blocked by the piece of helix inside the res.


So far it seems like temps are ok, they could be better for sure.. I want to know what the pressure looks like. Would I beneit from replacing the res with a koolance 452x2. With the pumps in serial. Or would I benefit more from dual loops each with a MCP655. Should I look at a MCP355? for higher head pressure?


My ideal was adding another Res and another pump with 2 more 120 Rads. With out seriously modding the 800d. I had add a 120 to the back. I can also add a 120 to the middle plate fan. I wanted to add the Hardware labs stealth GT 120's in red. To match the black and red theme. I was gonna put a small RES very small res after the motherboard. With another pump maybe the MCP355 To pump through the 2 radiators than to the GPU's. at one points beforethe bridge. I thought about pumping to one RAD than to GPU than to RAD than to GPU..

I am completely open for Ideas.





I know the color looks pink under flash, No flash it looks really nice red. I have some more DYE to darken. IM using the Mayhems Pastel Red. Might get some blood red to thinken dark some.. But any ideas on Loop? Dual loop? add pump and res to current loop? Do you think more rads will drop temps at all? Maybe I should OC some more and see what happens? Does it look ok? For first WC build did I butcher it? So i remove the 90's and go straight or figure out less restrictive ways?

I know for sure I want to add some QD3 quick disconnects to make taking the res out easy. I also wanted to add some more Temp or Flow meters. well a Flow meter would be nice. Another Ball valve SO I can can close the return and open the drain. ANy and all advice welcome. If your gonna bash it at least make it educational.
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Ohh come on 10 views and no one has a Comment or an idea? How about Good job? looks good? STOP SPENDING MONEY!! or wow what crap suprisedit works at all? Good temps? bad temps? 10 views and 0 replies that is very unlike the internet..

Come on internet don't let me down.
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Put a 240 rad in the bottom of that case and you'll be set. I have the same case thumb.gif
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Put a 240 rad in the bottom of that case and you'll be set. I have the same case thumb.gif

So the only pics ive seen of a 240 intheb ottom, they cut out the very bottom case. I really dont wanna mod it to the point of cutting anything out. plus the ax1200i is massive, What about the config with putting the 240 in the bottom? another pump ? or just slap the 240 in the bottom?
post #5 of 11
Sounds like you just started and already need a bigger case tongue.gif. You could always look into mounting radiators externally. Also your room temprature will directly reflect in your temps. You are doing to want to worry more about your Delta T's (Compnent Temp minus Room Temp = Delta T) than your actual temps. The order of your loop is going to be irrelevant as well ( as long as your loop is Res > Pump > It can go in any order after that). You could always add another 120mm to your exhaust fan. Also you said your main rad on top is being used as an exhaust. You will want to intake with that as all you are doing is using the warm air in your case to cool your hot water. I also just did the temp conversion back to celcius and your temps seem very good actually. I wouldn't worry. Even the 120f on a full prime95 load is only 50c and thats nothing for an Ivy Bridge chip. Hope this helps / isnt to muddled together.

But big points, your top rad should intake as it will be getting cooler air lowering your temps more than probably anything else you could do right now.

Also on your video cards you could probably get 1125 on the core and 1575 on the mem super easy. My 3 7970's did it with like 1163 on the volts and I am pretty sure that was the stock volts or real close. That is using the afterburner settings. I know other programs refer to it all differently.
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Did more reading, Push/Pull on your one rad would help a ton as well, maybe good for a few degrees. Your rear fan should exhaust. Yeah, if you were to add more rads a 120 on your exhaust may help, in push / pull. a general rule of thumb is 120mm of rad space per component and then an extra 120mm to be safe. Also, use a quality Thermal interface material.
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Did more reading, Push/Pull on your one rad would help a ton as well, maybe good for a few degrees. Your rear fan should exhaust. Yeah, if you were to add more rads a 120 on your exhaust may help, in push / pull. a general rule of thumb is 120mm of rad space per component and then an extra 120mm to be safe. Also, use a quality Thermal interface material.

Awesome thanks a ton. So As for the top radiator, doing a pull to exhaust. I've been thinking about this since I first mounted it. Most Top fans, Exhasust. Plus I dont have a Dust filter on top. So I've been exhausting.. But the 800'd Has ZERO intake fans. There is one intake fan on the midplate. Below the mess of power cables there is a spot for maybe a 120 in, So I think they just mounted the 140 to the midplate.

I wanted to reverse the rear exxxhasut and make it intake, and have all the hotair go out the top.. Honestly the air in the case is room temapture. I dont have any Hot air in the case at all. just a few degress above the air outside. That is why I didn't think exhausting that air up would matter..

If I do reverse it and Intake through the top and exhaust out the back. Do I push or Pull. I dont like push pull on the top 360 rad.it is just to thick..

So options reverse rear fan from exhaust into intake, and exhaust out the top.

Or flip the exhaust TOP fans on radiator and intake and exhaust out the back. Would need Filters on the top. Also should I push or pull, currently I pull with the fansmounted against the case and radiator with a space like a shroud SO its really efficent.
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Push or Pull will yield pretty much the same temps. Just w/e you like the look of or what ever is easier to clean. A lot of people like to pull on exhaust fans because that leaves the radiator open to easily clean. As for intake though you cant really reach the surface where the dust would build up either way... If you have the room for push pull I would consider it looks aside, I switched from push to push / pull on an old rig and saw like a 7 or 8 c drop in temps. As for filters DEMC makes really nice magnetic ones so you could just slap it on top of your case.
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Honestly the air in the case is room temapture. I dont have any Hot air in the case at all. just a few degress above the air outside. That is why I didn't think exhausting that air up would matter..
Keep in mind the temps you are getting compared to the ones you want are only a few degrees off.
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If I do reverse it and Intake through the top and exhaust out the back. Do I push or Pull. I dont like push pull on the top 360 rad.it is just to thick..
Lawl, your the only person I have ever talked to who doesn't like thick rads. Usually it is the bigger the better lol.
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What about breaking the loop into 2 seperate loops , adding 2 RED 120 radiators before the GPU's.

Thinking 452X2 with another mcp655


OR adding a tube resevoir infront of the mobo, with a pump at the bottom.

1 360 for the GPU's and 1 120 for the CPU and 1 120 for the mobo? I was thinking since the mobo and CPU are seperate items. where the GPU's are serial together. plus I can do a red / black?

really not sure. Since i STarted building this computer. Im going insane with the possiblites.
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Push or Pull will yield pretty much the same temps. Just w/e you like the look of or what ever is easier to clean. A lot of people like to pull on exhaust fans because that leaves the radiator open to easily clean. As for intake though you cant really reach the surface where the dust would build up either way... If you have the room for push pull I would consider it looks aside, I switched from push to push / pull on an old rig and saw like a 7 or 8 c drop in temps. As for filters DEMC makes really nice magnetic ones so you could just slap it on top of your case.
Keep in mind the temps you are getting compared to the ones you want are only a few degrees off.
Lawl, your the only person I have ever talked to who doesn't like thick rads. Usually it is the bigger the better lol.

I have one of those DEMC filters and they work great for keeping dust out. What they don't work great for is letting air through the to the radiator. When I put my hand on the underside I can barely feel any air coming through. I recently added a 7970 to my loop with my 3930 and with the filter on everything runs a littler warmer than I like. The 7970 runs in the low 60's with the filter on and mid to low 50's with the filter off. I have been taking a the filter off when I game. This is on my 800d and a RX360 with 3 GT fans in pull.
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