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Has MSI stopped production of the 7970 Lightning?

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Newegg has labeled the lightning model(not the PE) as discontinued for quite some time, Amazon has been sold out for quite some time as well, and Tiger Direct no longer shows it as a searchable product.

Any idea if they are preparing for some sort of Lightning refresh, or if production is just that limited now on this model?
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Most likely sold out. I ran across this when i purchased my 6970, And had to wait a week or two.
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Don't know why you would want it.. no Dual Link DVI for 2560x1440 Korean Goodness. Bummer.
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I havesseen a number of the lightning cards just up and die, anywhere from a few hours after starting to use the card to a few months. Actually, I don't know anyone who hasn't had to RMA their card at least once...

I am not bashing, as I think that when they work they are very fun cards, but I don't have any faith in MSI anymore :/ Especially after offering a friend $354 instead of a new card, for a dead GPU that was a month old!
   
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Don't know why you would want it.. no Dual Link DVI for 2560x1440 Korean Goodness. Bummer.

The lack of dual link did kinda suck, but an adapter fixes it up. Not sure about the average OC of the 7970 lightnings, but I've seen few reference cards that do as well for overclocking compared to the one I have.
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I havesseen a number of the lightning cards just up and die, anywhere from a few hours after starting to use the card to a few months. Actually, I don't know anyone who hasn't had to RMA their card at least once...

I am not bashing, as I think that when they work they are very fun cards, but I don't have any faith in MSI anymore :/ Especially after offering a friend $354 instead of a new card, for a dead GPU that was a month old!

I dunno, I've had pretty much every lighting card out in the last few years, frozen, overvolted (usually 1.5 - 1.6V) & abused. I've had one MSI die out of 8. I have less faith in Evga, I've gotten a defective card from them (both have good RMA so I still buy).


Sucks that the Lightning disappeared, I've been thinking about another 7970....
    
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Yeah but you need an active adapter which can run you like a hundred dollars or even more.
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I already own a mini display to dual link DVI adapter. I received an e-mail from MSI saying the product was in its EOL.



Seems weird that they would kill off the Lightning so far in advance of the 8000 series.
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Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post

The lack of dual link did kinda suck, but an adapter fixes it up. Not sure about the average OC of the 7970 lightnings, but I've seen few reference cards that do as well for overclocking compared to the one I have.
I dunno, I've had pretty much every lighting card out in the last few years, frozen, overvolted (usually 1.5 - 1.6V) & abused. I've had one MSI die out of 8. I have less faith in Evga, I've gotten a defective card from them (both have good RMA so I still buy).


Sucks that the Lightning disappeared, I've been thinking about another 7970....

The "an adapter fixes it up" defense might be valid if they actually included the MiniDP to DL-DVI adapter in the box instead of the DVI to HDMI adaptor.

Maybe they are bringing the 7970 Ligthning Boost Edition, originally only selling in Asia over to NA? or Maybe a Lightning Extreme edition with the DL DVI output.

Btw the 680 Lightning is OOS/Discontinued on Newegg as well.
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The "an adapter fixes it up" defense might be valid if they actually included the MiniDP to DL-DVI adapter in the box instead of the DVI to HDMI adaptor.

Maybe they are bringing the 7970 Ligthning Boost Edition, originally only selling in Asia over to NA? or Maybe a Lightning Extreme edition with the DL DVI output.

Btw the 680 Lightning is OOS/Discontinued on Newegg as well.

I had my 7970L before getting a catleap, so the adapter fixed it up to use the monitor with it. I still agree that it sucks that more money needs to be spent to use one with 1440p, although I still would have gotten the card if I had the monitor first, I wanted a top end 7970 & if i had to spend a bit extra , I was OK with it. Not everyone would be though, especially when other 7970s don't need it.
MSI did drop the ball there.
    
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Yeah made me wonder if they will be bringing the boost edition to the US. I don't want to drop a grand on the PE model or some other cards only to find out in 2-4 weeks the boost edition is being brought to the US. Really wish there was a way to get info on this kind of thing. I want to give you my money MSI, help me out.
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