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What makes people question this review is the fact the titan is locked down, and it differs from any other review out there...


the scaling in this chart on the Titan is abysmal...

i should mention i meant the 3 way sli. scaling.
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What makes people question this review is the fact the titan is locked down, and it differs from any other review out there...




Hexus didn't have BF3 so here is Crysis 3 instead



Even in the original review in the OP, BF and Dirt were the only one that showed the 7970's OC'd ahead of locked down Titans, clicked the other games by any chance?

But yeah, take one non representative graphic to make your point.

Hell, I own a 7970 and I love it, and I think the Titan is too expensive for me, but that doesn't blind me to the fact that it is a beast of a GPU, the best single GPU card out there.

it should be the fastest single gpu out there.....afterall, it's $1000.00 dollars!
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Man, this thread really makes me shake my head. It's pathetic.

The titan is not a ferrari, it will be old and slow in two years time with the way the pc industry moves and regardless of the crowd that can spend money because they can, it is still ridiculously priced. Not only that, but the amount of people saying you are simply jealous or mad at the price because you can't afford it, let alone flashing degrees around like it actually matters is really showing how mature the crowd is here at times. Wave that money and epeen around some more that will get your point across.... It's also so nice to see people go "no I have more money!".. rolleyes.gif

Can the discussion now focus on the actual topic at hand for a change? Like the poor scaling shown, and the fact that the performance while admirable isn't IMO what it was hyped up to be? If the 780 is less powerful then it (which I'm sure it will be) it will be rather sad because titan performance is where the 780 should be from the factory.

And people wonder why the pc crowd get's labeled elitists? I bet half of the crowd hardly plays games anymore... wink.gif
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When it comes to a single GPU raw performance (not talking about dual cards or price) I don't think anyone in their right mind can argue against Titan. But your first bench sort of agrees that Titan SLi scaling isn't what it should be. Not to mention that it makes the ridiculously expensive ARES seem a bargain in comparison/

That much I can agree with, and I do believe new drivers will improve SLI scale for the Titan. They did a very good job with SLI scaling with the GTX 680 and single 690 there is no reason to believe otherwise in regards to the GTX Titan given time.

My point with the graphics was not to argue in favor of the SLI scaling, but to question the graphics in the OP which is the only one I've seen where a XF 7970 would beat SLI Titans.
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Can the discussion now focus on the actual topic at hand for a change? Like the poor scaling shown, and the fact that the performance while admirable isn't IMO what it was hyped up to be? If the 780 is less powerful then it (which I'm sure it will be) it will be rather sad because titan performance is where the 780 should be from the factory.

If nvidia cripples 780 performance to keep titan ahead, we are pretty much screwed cause AMD will most certainly grab the opportunity , produce a 8970 that easily beats said 780 and price it in between the two. I can already see a 700 euro 8970 around the corner.
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If nvidia cripples 780 performance to keep titan ahead, we are pretty much screwed cause AMD will most certainly grab the opportunity , produce a 8970 that easily beats said 780 and price it in between the two. I can already see a 700 euro 8970 around the corner.

That's assuming they can.

If we're still talking about 28nm GPUs it's going to be tough. The perf difference between refreshes has almost always been 10%. Since there's a longer time between generations this time we'll see what happens but unless AMD and NV suddenly pull 20nm chips somewhere you guys are setting yourselves up for a disappointment if you're expecting more than 15%.
 
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post #427 of 666
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That's assuming they can.

If we're still talking about 28nm GPUs it's going to be tough. The perf difference between refreshes has almost always been 10%. Since there's a longer time between generations this time we'll see what happens but unless AMD and NV suddenly pull 20nm chips somewhere you guys are setting yourselves up for a disappointment if you're expecting more than 15%.

Doesn't have to be that way. They can simply increase the die, get more than 15% in performance and charge 40% over what they did for 680/7970. If it makes sense margin-wise, they will do it.
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I did that on purpose some people here think that their above you because they bought a geforce titan...lol

Anyways, titan is the only card that came out in 2013 so far and it has no competetion...I'll hold off for now until it has a competetion......

I still can't believe the sli titan lost to a cf 7970...even at stock settings, it has no business losing to cf 7970....it's 2k againts $700.00......boxing3.gif
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were completely opposite lol....I'm cheapskate tongue.gif
Edited by Raptorpowa - 3/11/13 at 7:48am
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That's assuming they can.

If we're still talking about 28nm GPUs it's going to be tough. The perf difference between refreshes has almost always been 10%. Since there's a longer time between generations this time we'll see what happens but unless AMD and NV suddenly pull 20nm chips somewhere you guys are setting yourselves up for a disappointment if you're expecting more than 15%.

Doesn't have to be that way. They can simply increase the die, get more than 15% in performance and charge 40% over what they did for 680/7970. If it makes sense margin-wise, they will do it.

But it would use an incredible amount of more power so that most people wouldn't buy just because of energy issues.

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