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Yeah the thread slowed down from 1 post a minute to one every 30 min or so, everything was nice and pretty and the civilized discourse reigned supreme...
And than... someone decided to whip out their d... pay checks.

The Pharmacy dude did it! lol
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Read EVERYTHING again.

2 7850's are better Price / Performance than a 7950, someone already laughed at you for it.

You're using his same argument but with 2 7950's to compare to a Titan.
Hence the lachen.gif

That's what makes the argument stupid to begin with.

You can and WILL always find 2 lesser cards that outperform a Single Card. But as you trickle down the line......

2 6770's are faster than a 7850.

I'm using way too much sarcasm here to show how stupid the P / P point is, I understand that.

Not really sure how the price performance point is stupid. Does money grow on trees and if so where can I get one? We all work hard for our toys. What's the point in spending 2K for a pair of titans when they get squashed by 1600 dollars worth of quad 7970s? So your epeen is huge because you can say you have titans? Truth of the matter is anyone who buys titans has more money then brains.
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WOW!! The real Kepler is 561mm^2??? That's a disaster of epic proportions right there. lol nice one NV. It takes an extra 200mm^2 to average some 15%-30% more performance and actually losing in a few games. It still gets pounded in some compute workloads and only manages to tie in many others. That's what I call a huge FAIL.
Also, how does NV expect people to still believe their lie that this was to be their high performance card but decided that 104 was fast enough to compete. There is no way in hell they could have sold this as any kind of volume part. The only way to sell this to consumers was to jack the price up to $1000 to have any kind of positive margins and keep it low volume, then have NV's marketing team troll the internet to try and create some buzz and make it look as if people are actually interested in this con job. Haha you'd have to be a bafoon to believe this was their intended high performance part IMO.
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Originally Posted by Raptorpowa View Post

people that bought 1k for a gpu are the stupid one and I'm about to be one but hey, The fastest single gpu is at hand tongue.gif

Why don't you just get a 3rd 7950? biggrin.gif

Sorry about earlier, my sarcasm gets the better of me at times, and not everybody gets it. thumb.gif

My main points still stand though, if you can decipher them. smile.gif
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I don't think buying a Titan makes anyone stupid. If they're able to do it and are fine with it, then why should anyone complain? At the end of the day it does offer a tangible advantage over other other single gpu's.
I'm not sure that makes P/P stupid. It's definitely being beaten like a dead horse but it's still a valid point considering we arent talking about fine wine or caviar. Or even something that's really collectible.

The day we all own 12 pharmacies and 17 shopping malls, p/p will be truly stupid.

I agree.

If you're on a certain budget, then by all means focus on P/P, nothing wrong with that. Just don't come along preaching and laughing at others on how they choose to spend their money.

I guess it gets tiring after 3000 posts saying the same thing. The Titan reviews thread got shut down for this very reason. That's really what gets annoying after a while.

I'm pretty sure everyone here can agree that Titan is NOT the best Price / Performance card ever made.

Can we move on now?
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Actually, if you reread the whole thread, multiple people try to argue the titan was a reasonable purchase. Some even get so defensive that they are clearly irate. Clearly a sign of someone who's in a dilemma about what they purchased.

For the money spent on a single titan, or SLI titans or anything beyond that, MORE performance can be had for LESS money with other multi card setups.

It will never make sense from a price/performance standpoint and no one has tried to argue that it does. What you need to realize that for some people it might be a reasonable purchase since price/performance isn't their #1 priority. Take me for example, I've been following GK110 for over a year now, I like tweaking my hardware, I was sick of multiple GPUs, and I had the money to blow on something that I liked before I need to haul myself to the finnish army in the summer.

Titan handles the games I play just fine at 1440p and it's nothing compared to the cooling costs of my PC in the last year.

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~1200$ for single stage phase change for the CPU,
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None of that makes sense from a price/performance standpoint but it's my hobby and I enjoy it. For me that's all that's needed to make it a reasonable purchase. I get enjoyment from the things I buy.
 
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I love quoting the TPU review:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/35.html

See no one is arguing that Titan is a reasonable purchase when it comes to price/performance. It definitely isn't for everyone. The people buying one aren't better than others. The people buying one want one and for them that's the only reason they need. If you do not feel the same way then the card obviously is not for you. It's quite simple and nothing worth getting upset over.

How about me? If the performance justifies the price i will get.

I am currently deciding between a 7990 and a gtx 690.
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WOW!! The real Kepler is 561mm^2??? That's a disaster of epic proportions right there. lol nice one NV. It takes an extra 200mm^2 to average some 15%-30% more performance and actually losing in a few games. It still gets pounded in some compute workloads and only manages to tie in many others. That's what I call a huge FAIL.
Also, how does NV expect people to still believe their lie that this was to be their high performance card but decided that 104 was fast enough to compete. There is no way in hell they could have sold this as any kind of volume part. The only way to sell this to consumers was to jack the price up to $1000 to have any kind of positive margins and keep it low volume, then have NV's marketing team troll the internet to try and create some buzz and make it look as if people are actually interested in this con job. Haha you'd have to be a bafoon to believe this was their intended high performance part IMO.

We'll first of all on average the Titan is 32% faster than a 7970GHz at 1600p. Something like 43% for the 680.

They have sold similar chips with the gtx 280, gtx 480 and gtx 580. All in big numbers and all with equivalent die sizes.

GK110 is so big due to the added compute features. Mainly the DP cores that for the first time in a long time are actually non crippled in a consumer card.

If AMD's lineup would be faster we would be buying GK110's in normal plastic casings with disabled compute features for just over $500. Just like with fermi.
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How about me? If the performance justifies the price i will get.

I am currently deciding between a 7990 and a gtx 690.

We'll if you want one of those then go for it, everyone should make their purchasing decisions themselves.
 
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We'll first of all on average the Titan is 32% faster than a 7970GHz at 1600p. Something like 43% for the 680.

They have sold similar chips with the gtx 280, gtx 480 and gtx 580. All in big numbers and all with equivalent die sizes.

GK110 is so big due to the added compute features. Mainly the DP cores that for the first time in a long time are actually non crippled in a consumer card.

If AMD's lineup would be faster we would be buying GK110's in normal plastic casings with disabled compute features for just over $500. Just like with fermi.
We'll if you want one of those then go for it, everyone should make their purchasing decisions themselves.

Ok people do not come in here talking because they are poor. I hope you realize that.

Some actually use logic and reasoning before making a purchase.
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GK110 is so big due to the added compute features. Mainly the DP cores that for the first time in a long time are actually non crippled in a consumer card.

Which can be why the price is so high. Its not $1000 because its the fastest single gpu card for gaming.
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Ok people do not come in here talking because they are poor. I hope you realize that.

Some actually use logic and reasoning before making a purchase

What? where did I say anything about people being poor? All I said was the people should make their decisions themselves based on what they want.
 
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It will never make sense from a price/performance standpoint and no one has tried to argue that it does. What you need to realize that for some people it might be a reasonable purchase since price/performance isn't their #1 priority. Take me for example, I've been following GK110 for over a year now, I like tweaking my hardware, I was sick of multiple GPUs, and I had the money to blow on something that I liked before I need to haul myself to the finnish army in the summer.

Titan handles the games I play just fine at 1440p and it's nothing compared to the cooling costs of my PC in the last year.

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~1200$ for single stage phase change for the CPU,
$450 for a CPU pot,
$200 for GPU pots,
about $100 in kneaded eraser and armaflex alone,
$300 in dry ice.
etc.

None of that makes sense from a price/performance standpoint but it's my hobby and I enjoy it. For me that's all that's needed to make it a reasonable purchase. I get enjoyment from the things I buy.

i think you further reinforced that for each individual there is a different GPU or GPU setup that fits them. for some it is titan / titans and for others something else. for me, i like the look of a two way setup (when done right).

also, Single stage? well Damn. that's serious cooling and serious price but then again this is OCN biggrin.gif
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