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Well first of all you need to enable the 2nd bios on the 7970s in order to get 1200mhz, they're 1100mhz at stock settings.

secondly, Titan is only 837 on paper, like Intel lists VID range for SB maxing at something like 1.5v. That doesn't mean you lock an SB chip to 1.5v and then say it ran hot at stock. That's mental.

If you want a titan that's locked to 867MHz, not to mention 837MHz, that's not a stock titan. That's a titan tweaked to stay at its absolute minimum clocks. A stock Titan will run at much higher frequencies.

And if you wish to lock Titan to 837 and run these at 1200 that means that I have 50% OCing headroom while the 7970s barely have 5%... But obviously it doesn't work like that.

Flip the bios switch... comes on the card...stock to me rolleyes.gif

837mhz stock
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/
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Not that I particularly care.. but if I was paying double + for cards, I would want them to work OOB. I understand drivers maturing, but for the amount of money, they should have solidified the drivers just a bit more.

was gonna say the same thing +1

But now thinking just because it double the price, doesn't mean a thing. Any of our cards should have decent drivers from day one. Reap all that revenue with poxy drivers, only to use the Joe public for feedback mad.gif
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Still would go Titan if I had to choose between the two
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Flip the bios switch... comes on the card...stock to me rolleyes.gif

837mhz stock
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/

Except that it doesn't run at that frequency any more than intel chips run at 1.5V.... Please show me a Titan that runs at 837MHz out of the box. I wouldn't waste my time if I were you since there are none. My card did 980MHz bone stock and jumped to 1016MHz when I increased the power target and voltage. Overclocked I'm running 1254MHz...

Flipping a bios switch isn't stock. Neither is purposefully locking a card down.

One is increasing the performance of one card and one is decreasing the perf of the 2nd one.

Besides, the 7970s are obviously inferior cards (by a large margin as well) and the ones used here have a $700 MSRP.
 
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Nice to see that the 7970 still has some fight in it. I'm sure that by the end of this year the 7970 will really be starting to show its age. Nvidia seriously needs to do something about that scaling problem they're having. The Titan is already ridiculously overpriced (it should $700-$800) and on top of that it has terrible performance in SLI. If I were one of the people foolish enough to waste $1000 on this card I would be pretty upset at this point.
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Nice to see that the 7970 still has some fight in it. I'm sure that by the end of this year the 7970 will really be starting to show its age. Nvidia seriously needs to do something about that scaling problem they're having. The Titan is already ridiculously overpriced (it should $700-$800) and on top of that it has terrible performance in SLI. If I were one of the people foolish enough to waste $1000 on this card I would be pretty upset at this point.

Downclocked titans vs. overclocked $700 7970s....
 
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Downclocked titans vs. overclocked $700 7970s....

I wont argue with you. You're obviously the kind of person that needs to be right.
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Downclocked titans vs. overclocked $700 7970s....

Those Toxics don't retail for 350$ a pop, they easily go above 450$ each, if you can find them....
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you don't need the toxic for 1200 , mine does 1200 even 1250 easy , past that i begin to have instability in some games or bench. and i paid it 530$ . i have dual 100mm fan on it , i can keep it under 65 even at 1300. only bad point is the size and the weight.
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I wont argue with you. You're obviously the kind of person that needs to be right.

I don't need to be right, but I can spot a non representative review full of errors any day of the week. Don't get me wrong 7970s are great cards and Titan's price/perf is abysmal but what people should take from this review is how not to make reviews.
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Those Toxics don't retail for 350$ a pop, they easily go above 450$ each, if you can find them....

you're right they're not $350 each. The MSRP is $700 per card. tongue.gif
 
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[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7 5960X @ 4.8GHz] [Rampage V Extreme] [Titan 1400MHz (1500MHz bench)] [Various] 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
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